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Low-flow shower heads at CSR: Spawn of Satan?

CBOMB

Active Member
I think it is very admirable that people, and corporations want to protect, and conserve our natural resources. WDW should always remember they are a service driven business. Being green certified is great, but not at the expense of guest. Folks pay a lot of money to go to WDW, and I'm sure that most are not the least bit impressed that Disney is getting patted on the back by all the enviromental groups. Save, and conserve all you can, but your guest better come first over everything else. That is unless you think you can fill your parks with nothing but enviromentalist.
 

jmvd20

Well-Known Member
Most shower heads have the flow restrictor in them now. Kitchen faucets, and bathroom faucets are starting to have them as well.

Because this is exactly how the 1.6 gallon per flush toilet deal started I would either recommend getting used to water saving features or learning how to defeat them...
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
Reminds self - Never go to a ball game with Kyle or Rob! :lol:
Pfft.... I don't use the facilities during any sporting event. Ever. In any venue in the world.

During the world baseball classic, I held it till we went out for Pizza after the games.
 

lentesta

Premium Member
Original Poster
Don't get me wrong - I understand the environmental impact. It's just that for $165 per night I expected to be able to have a reasonable shower. And I don't actually shower that long. When it's not possible for the water pressure to cleanse my daughter's hair, however, we have an issue. And that's my point - for people with more hair, I don't think the shower heads will actually work... for $165 per night.

Len
 

Larry Mondello

Well-Known Member
Don't get me wrong - I understand the environmental impact. It's just that for $165 per night I expected to be able to have a reasonable shower. And I don't actually shower that long. When it's not possible for the water pressure to cleanse my daughter's hair, however, we have an issue. And that's my point - for people with more hair, I don't think the shower heads will actually work... for $165 per night.

Len

Agreed! The drought in FL is not going to last forever and water in FL will be far more plentiful than it will ever be in CA or AZ. And for $165 I surely expect the same kind of shower that I got at a $89 Hampton Inn last week. The other gimmick they have is to save water by asking you to use the same towels all week yet I don't see how much they are going to knock off you bill for doing so. It is a little bit irritating to see this at a WDW resort when a Days Inn doesn't even ask you to do this.
 

Krozar

New Member
Corporations do it for the PR purposes. So when they build a new development, they can go and preach about how environmentally conscious they are. It helps to keep certain groups at bay so they don't go and claim the land to be some sort of bird ecosystem or something... the environmentalist's "whiplash" if you will.
 

imamouse

Well-Known Member
A year or two ago, I received an electronic survey from WDW about a 100% green resort. The questions asked were about willingness to stay in a resort with low-flow showers, no controllable thermostat in the room (a deal-breaker for me), special soaps for washing/laundry, recycled everything, etc.

Perhaps the green resort as a whole was squashed, but some of the ideas are being implemented?
 

The Mom

Moderator
Premium Member
If I have to edit any more posts due to personal attacks, this thread will be locked.

Now, if those of you with opposing viewpoints can present them without throwing insults around......
 

jmvd20

Well-Known Member
Water saver plumbing fixtures are becoming common place all over the country now, not just in Florida or other drought areas.

As far as the drought in Florida goes, perhaps they should consider desalinization, it works in other parts of the world. Do they talk about this? Or are the costs prohibitive?
 

GenerationX

Well-Known Member
Low-flow toilets, in my experience, do not save any water unless they are also pressurized. I got tired of plunging (and wasting a ton of water on reflushes) every day and installed jet flush toilets. They work, but are more expensive. The waterless urinals sound intriguing.

Low-flow shower heads should result in less water use, but they require more time for washing/rinsing than normal shower heads. In terms of total water usage, you could say that it's pretty much a wash (heh). However, it was the inefficiency of low-flow shower heads that drove me to replace all of the shower heads in our house with normal ones. Why should I waste time showering when there are a million other things I could be wasting my time on?
 

jmvd20

Well-Known Member
Low-flow toilets, in my experience, do not save any water unless they are also pressurized. I got tired of plunging (and wasting a ton of water on reflushes) every day and installed jet flush toilets. They work, but are more expensive. The waterless urinals sound intriguing.

Low-flow shower heads should result in less water use, but they require more time for washing/rinsing than normal shower heads. In terms of total water usage, you could say that it's pretty much a wash (heh). However, it was the inefficiency of low-flow shower heads that drove me to replace all of the shower heads in our house with normal ones. Why should I waste time showering when there are a million other things I could be wasting my time on?

Exactly - how much does a 1.6 gallon save when you have to flush it twice? Power assisted flushers are required in my opinion.

I can't stand the water saver shower heads so I removed the extra devices from ours. Sure they only use half the water but it takes twice as long to rinse off - why does it sound like were not really saving any water in that scenario?

I guess it does make some people feel better thinking they are doing something positive for the environment.
 

MissM

Well-Known Member
As far as the drought in Florida goes, perhaps they should consider desalinization, it works in other parts of the world. Do they talk about this? Or are the costs prohibitive?
You hear the topic come up every couple of years. There's a lot of issues involved from environmental impact, to pollution to of course cost - it's never as easy and clear-cut as it seems it should be. For example:
Despite a troubled history, including the bankruptcy of three of the companies involved and a dispute over ownership and control which reached the Federal Courts, the Tampa Bay plant is now expected to be fully operational in early 2008 – some six years behind its original schedule.
Source
So...they're working on it.


For the record, low-flow showers are almost entirely universal in motels around the country. Low-flow shower heads are almost always aerated so they "feel" like normal-flow shower heads. With Florida's excessively hard water, there's never worry about it taking a long time to rinse soap or shampoo. Trust me, it rinses out very quickly - drying your skin to a crisp with it.

If you're clogging low-flush toilets , I'm sorry but you need to use less t.p. Not to overshare or anything, but I had a problem when they first came out and I realized I was really being a paper hog. Now I never have the problem AND I'm not going through as much paper either. Win-win. Plus the newer generation low-flush toliets have enough suction to take golf balls with them. Trust me, you're not dealing with things that won't flush.

Water conservation is very important. Florida is in a drought now, true. But it's a much bigger, long-term problem. Our growth is out of control and our fresh water sources are stretched to the limits. You have to remember, we are almost an island and our soil is dependent on maintaining certain water table levels. Sinkholes are just one major issue that is direct result of too many people, not enough water.
-m
 

GenerationX

Well-Known Member
If you're clogging low-flush toilets , I'm sorry but you need to use less t.p. Not to overshare or anything, but I had a problem when they first came out and I realized I was really being a paper hog. Now I never have the problem AND I'm not going through as much paper either. Win-win. Plus the newer generation low-flush toliets have enough suction to take golf balls with them. Trust me, you're not dealing with things that won't flush.
Low-flush toilets have to be pressurized to be useful in a household with kids.
 

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