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The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
I think all the parks have unique pride except WDW - that resort is a little soulless at this point
Very much this.

It's astonishing with how much careless abandon WDW is ran. The Disney flagship resort has no respect for its beauty and greatness. EPCOT/FW all but gone. Random hotel high rises and add-ons everywhere that all but destroy carefully crafted environments. The mad assault on the MK right now. Entertainment, maintenance and water and theme park opening times are the bare minumum.

Meanwhile HKDL and DLP remain little love letters, each in their own way. DL despite everything loves and respects its heritage. Shanghai is much better operated than it gets credit for, Tokyo is plain next level.
WDW by contrast is a mean and sorry experience, that, to add insult to injury, has destroyed more than other resorts have ever built.
 

Gusey

Well-Known Member
Very much this.

It's astonishing with how much careless abandon WDW is ran. The Disney flagship resort has no respect for its beauty and greatness. EPCOT/FW all but gone. Random hotel high rises and add-ons everywhere that all but destroy carefully crafted environments. The mad assault on the MK right now. Entertainment, maintenance and water and theme park opening times are the bare minumum.

Meanwhile HKDL and DLP remain little love letters, each in their own way. DL despite everything loves and respects its heritage. Shanghai is much better operated than it gets credit for, Tokyo is plain next level.
WDW by contrast is a mean and sorry experience, that, to add insult to injury, has destroyed more than other resorts have ever built.
I just want to add that whilst DLP does plus what is already there, I wish the castle park would get a new attraction somewhere. THe fact that next year marks 20 years since the last new ride, and it's been 6 years now since the last new attraction (Rhythms of the Pride Lands) feels like a different kind of neglect
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
I just want to add that whilst DLP does plus what is already there, I wish the castle park would get a new attraction somewhere. THe fact that next year marks 20 years since the last new ride, and it's been 6 years now since the last new attraction (Rhythms of the Pride Lands) feels like a different kind of neglect
Paris has different issues to the others. Ten years ago as we know it was bad. 20 years ago it was falling apart literally. The plan now seems to be to get the second gate on a firm footing (finally) and then return attention to the legacy park. Both parks still need more I won’t argue but I dare say the studios is the priority
 

Gusey

Well-Known Member
Paris has different issues to the others. Ten years ago as we know it was bad. 20 years ago it was falling apart literally. The plan now seems to be to get the second gate on a firm footing (finally) and then return attention to the legacy park. Both parks still need more I won’t argue but I dare say the studios is the priority
100% and WDS/DAW is nearly there to be a "fixed", and plussed once the Up Swings and Lion King opens.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I just want to add that whilst DLP does plus what is already there, I wish the castle park would get a new attraction somewhere. THe fact that next year marks 20 years since the last new ride, and it's been 6 years now since the last new attraction (Rhythms of the Pride Lands) feels like a different kind of neglect
It’s not neglect but a unique kind of preservation. Disneyland Paris has been spared dumb decisions that would have harmed the great design of the park.
 

The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
It’s not neglect but a unique kind of preservation. Disneyland Paris has been spared dumb decisions that would have harmed the great design of the park.
It's been very much a blessing in disguise. I dread the day a new round of investments finds its way to DLP...

The choice for a Sleeping Beauty Castle was prescient. For indeed from its low point a little over a decade ago DLP awoke from its slumber a sleeping beauty, stuck in 1992, having been mostly spared the ravages of twenty years of post-1994 Disney park management.
 

Sir_Cliff

Well-Known Member
Very much this.

It's astonishing with how much careless abandon WDW is ran. The Disney flagship resort has no respect for its beauty and greatness. EPCOT/FW all but gone. Random hotel high rises and add-ons everywhere that all but destroy carefully crafted environments. The mad assault on the MK right now. Entertainment, maintenance and water and theme park opening times are the bare minumum.

Meanwhile HKDL and DLP remain little love letters, each in their own way. DL despite everything loves and respects its heritage. Shanghai is much better operated than it gets credit for, Tokyo is plain next level.
WDW by contrast is a mean and sorry experience, that, to add insult to injury, has destroyed more than other resorts have ever built.
I may be way off with this impression, but there seems to be a real problem with the corporate culture at WDW that leads to a wild inconsistency in the quality and appropriateness of changes and additions.

One little example would be the "crazy tiki" style of BouTiki and some other decorations at the Polynesian resort. I feel that, at Disneyland, someone would catch those things and recognise that they represent a bastardisation of the mid-century tiki cultural craze and steer things back on track. At WDW, it often seems like people signing off on this stuff don't know what they're looking at. With the resorts in particular, you never really know what you're going to get when they put up those refurb walls.

Other examples would be the Main Street USA DJ, where someone in management who approved that seemed to need the fans to tell them it wasn't appropriate for the land or the park.

I never really get the sense that there would be much interest in looking at archival images and restoring old apples or incorporating a bandana from an old Marc Davis sketch, as they have done with this Pirates refurb in Paris. It's a minor miracle if attractions emerge from refurbishments with everything working.
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
DLP has certainly not be free of questionable decisions since Disney took over, starting with the immediate removal of the included breakfast for hotel guests, the sharp rise in prices and the start of some disappointing creative choices.

But it's peanuts compared to what's happened to WDW. And it's hard to argue the Studios park is worse now than before

(RIP CineMagique)
 

Centauri Space Station

Well-Known Member
I’d say DLR is far from innocent of removing classics in its first 40 years or so and DCA has been changing a lot but most of those were never great to begin with. Splash, cbj, rainbow caverns, mule wagons, adventure thru inner space, peoplemover, carousel of progress, america sings, rocket rods, innoventions, skyway, big thunder ranch, golden horseshoe shows. Then placement making areas in DCA like Tower of terror, soarin over cali, pacific wharf, etc.
 

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