On off on off… I’ve not heard anything definite about it “on” again but there’s certainly mutterings beyond the regular.
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EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment
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DreamfinderGuy
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Gremlin Gus
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Guys what if the real Journey into Imagination with Figment overhaul was the friends we met along the way?
MaxW
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James Alucobond
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I mean, it probably can if they simultaneously build out the attraction density WS has needed for ages. It would still be a slow boat ride with no thrill factor.
HMF
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It was the second most visited attraction in the park until 1994 when the queue was sabotaged for HISTA. Of course, what Disney needs to learn especially considering EPCOT is that NOT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO APPEAL TO EVERYBODY.
SaveDinosaur
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If they’re so keen on nostalgia—bringing back the vibe of World of Motion and a Figment remake—can we please get a Horizons overlay for Mission: Space? Honestly, if they just looped one of Martin’s POV videos of Horizons on the pre-show screens and called it a ride, it would still be better than that abomination.
HMF
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That might be true but even if Imagination is fixed, with Spaceship Earth being a shell of it's former greatness and IllumiNations: Reflections of Earth gone. The park still will not have a cohesive vision linking it together. A TRULY GREAT Spaceship Earth refurbishment and an actual worthy successor to Reflections of Earth with a similar message and emotional impact might bring me back. I don't expect them to happen but that is what they will need to do if they want my money and support.
SaveDinosaur
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I think the new Country Bear Jamboree is a good example. They never expected it to be a major hit that would bring families to the park just to see the new show, but they still believed it would help raise the overall quality of the park (although I disagree).
In the worst-case scenario, it improves general public approval of the park and the pavilion — and they sell more merchandise to fans.
HMF
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And best of all it would bring it into compliance with Iger's self-referential IP mandate.
Tha Realest
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A few years after a Figment feature film was announced the new plans involve, possibly, some vague series or short film(s). Not trending in the right direction.Didn't they mention plans for Figment shorts at a recent shareholders meeting?
From March:
Figment 'series or short-form videos' requested by Disney CEO Bob Iger
Figment — Disney's purple dragon character and de facto mascot of Epcot — might star in his own series or shorts in the future.attractionsmagazine.com
Joel
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Then the best case scenario happened, and we all have to find something else to complain about.
FigmentJedi
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That's what the restaurant is for. They even called the setting the Centauri Space Station.
Cmdr_Crimson
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WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Mexico could handle a new more popular ride in the same sense that Norway is able to... But it would need to move its main entrance somehow over to the side or around the pavilion with just an outdoor extended queue, and an exit that doesn't end up inside the pavilion.
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
Of course. But that's not why everyone keeps recommending an Inside Out show goes in there... They're thinking the old space could be re-skinned/utilized which is not the case, and they're not thinking about the rest of that entire pavilion, which has also been completely gutted.
It doesn't make much sense for Inside Out to be utilized in a small portion of a giant pavilion if there are not plans for the rest of the pavilion. Makes more sense to go into Magic Eye.
Homemade Imagineering
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The conspiracist side of me is hoping that this might go down a little sooner than later with WDI buying time for SSE with its short refurb that was announced today.
Invest money into keeping the other attraction chugging along for a few more years while JII gets some love. Take SSE offline right after Figment. I’m not sure if any of the work they’re doing at SSE will carry over to it’s next iteration, but if so I suppose it could also speed up the process a little just in time for the 50th.
Can’t see them taking SSE offline for a few months only to take it offline again for the “big one” months after. May as well go all in now unless you’ve got something bigger planned…
Invest money into keeping the other attraction chugging along for a few more years while JII gets some love. Take SSE offline right after Figment. I’m not sure if any of the work they’re doing at SSE will carry over to it’s next iteration, but if so I suppose it could also speed up the process a little just in time for the 50th.
Can’t see them taking SSE offline for a few months only to take it offline again for the “big one” months after. May as well go all in now unless you’ve got something bigger planned…
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GenChi
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Good question. I think people rely too much on wait times as a sole indicator of an attraction's success. Many say if something has a 120 minute wait it's a success, if it has a 10 minute wait it's a failure. There's far more variables then people give. Location, capacity, and operations play a role in wait time too.
Something can have a 120 minute wait. It can indicate it's a very popular attraction, it can also indicate it has very low capacity and can't get riders through, poor operations, or a prominent location
Something can have a 10 minute wait. It can indicate it's a very unpopular attraction, it can also indicate it has a large capacity, good operations, is in a harder to find area, and it's not meant as a E-ticket.
Same way I wouldn't say Pirates or Small World are failures for 20 min waits right now, if this new ride has a low wait that isn't bad. They know when rides are people eaters and when they max out an area's potential, which is why they aren't fighting to remove Nemo or GFT (and Cocopers need to get over it that dream is dead with the DCA build). If this gets more interest and more crowds then now, and of course more merch sales and prominence for the character, it would be successful. Doesn't need GOTG wait times.
ChewbaccaYourMum
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Sorry I should have been more clear.. I completely understand the concept of capacity on rides and how it effects wait times completely.
What I meant was what if they revamp the ride and it's incredible, but it is still able to be walked on, with no one in the queue and with like half full cars most of the day, which it is now. I don't think that has anything to do with the rides capacity efforts, I think it has to do with people just not going on the ride.
Pirates is a different story, because even though that wait time could be pretty low a lot of times during the day, I rarely ever see a boat not full of people, and at least a line of 5 minutes towards the end of the queue, which to me means all the boats going are full and it's using it's great great great capacity well.
The Leader of the Club
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I still don’t think they’d do anything to it for at least a decade, especially if fans receive the update well. They’d coast on that goodwill while they address other areas of the parks until his number gets called again. At that point, I think a different IP would be inevitable.