EPCOT Figment, well, to be replaced by Figment

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

I say make the ride trackless, that way you can replicate the turntable without actually having to build a complicated turntable system.

The trouble is the amount of space you’d have in the show building, not enough space. The current ride literally utilizes most of the same track & show rooms as the original, minus the opening scene & film finale (that’s the current queue space & ImageWorks: What-If? Labs space). The show rooms utilize the same space just some is covered in black curtain and the other half, is all the dumb doors/tables/charts, slot machine, and upside down house on the ceiling. Most of the track is simply underneath the current flooring (you can even stomp on those sections and feel it right there). It’d honestly be much cheaper restoring it back. They’ve got all the audio, scenes, reference materials etc. in their archives. So I’d say that’s the best solution. And if they need to spend a little extra to fix the turntable, so be it. Proven popular classic, sells tons of merch, easy to market, bring both Dreamfinder & Figment back out for meet n greets (more guest interactivity) and easy to then go and make a show or make a film off it too. Instantly classic characters & concept.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

I say make the ride trackless, that way you can replicate the turntable without actually having to build a complicated turntable system.

On top of it, didn’t they just build a new turntable for the Walt Disney/Lincoln show at Disneyland? So yeeah.. umm.. I figure it’d be worth the cost to repair or replace, that being considered. And ‘especially’ considering just how much merch Figment sells alone yearly and would only sell ‘more’ with a better/classic attraction & better promotion alongside & after that.

 

[jah4955]

On top of it, didn’t they just build a new turntable for the Walt Disney/Lincoln show at Disneyland? So yeeah.. umm.. I figure it’d be worth the cost to repair or replace, that being considered. And ‘especially’ considering just how much merch Figment sells alone yearly and would only sell ‘more’ with a better/classic attraction & better promotion alongside & after that.

As long as they bring it back So many happy memories on so many different levels....and only one ride

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

And that’s not even getting into the whole thing they showed in their Imagineer That videos where they’re 3D printing all these things and it’s like.. geez, imagine then how fast they could render & print all this stuff that’s already been drawn out/planned/sculpted/recorded, etc. it’s like. The ROI is literally a guarantee here. Just market it right and voila! Also a thing that’ll bring a bunch of goodwill back, especially for us huge Parks fans. And just people that’ll wanna check out a classic experience that has decades of good word of mouth & nostalgia attached to it with the tasteful tech & spfx enhancements & upgrades we’d expect

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

They should know, full-well at this point. This has been a wish/demand, going 23 years now, still going. I’d say just go for it at this point. And speaking of which, in regards to a film that could come after it, they’ve already got a fantastic prequel story already developed for them in the form of the Disney Kingdoms Figment comic series, to show how a young Dreamfinder became the older Santa Claus like Dreamfinder we know & love in the ride. I think of how Disney adapted Big Hero 6 to a film, which was initially a comic series. Creative liberties were taken sure.. but I don’t see how making that story stylized or adding more elements to make it more classic Disney styled would be a bad thing. Besides that, there’s that “Meander” style used in the Paperman short, that hasn’t been utilized the same way in a feature film yet. A fine mix between classic traditional animation & CG animation. So uhh, there’s your film to help market a classic ride brought back to your parks better.

Wanna make it more of a success, why not have a genuinely great ‘traditionally animated’ Mickey & Friends short film or featurette before it. Folks are always asking when they’ll do another fully traditionally animated film again, let alone with Mickey & Friends that’ll do those characters justice. Well why not do that? As a lifelong fan who’s been wanting to see those characters treated better lately aswell, I’d absolutely love that, myself.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

It’s especially a timely story & concept too. As it celebrates human imagination, in an age of AI taking over. Not only does the original attraction celebrate this quality perfectly. But ironically, that prequel comic showcases a “Clockwork Control” army that accidentally gets set forth after a stuffy Chairman Illocrant gets their hands on early proto Dream Machine tech Dreamfinder is working on that transports both him & Figment into the realm of imagination, only for Illocrant to try it himself and use it instead for “Control & Order”, only to get “The Singular” Clockwork Control fleet of robots wrecking havoc around the world. LOL! Ultimately, Dreamfinder & Figment and some friends they meet through the realms of imagination, help save the day and restore peace to the world by using & encouraging the use of creativity & ingenuity. I mean.. cmon now.

 

[jah4955]

It’s especially a timely story & concept too. As it celebrates human imagination, in an age of AI taking over.

Studies have already shown how Smartphone & AI use have compromised brain function in numerous ways.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

Studies have already shown how Smartphone & AI use have compromised brain function in numerous ways.

Exactly. And boy, does that story I just mentioned tackle this whole scenario in a fun, engaging way, well. Heck, I’d argue the original ride & that prequel story both are great catalysts to showcase how wonderful the human imagination really is in these times we’re living in now. Great for EPCOT too, being the optimistic place that’s supposed to provide hope & inspiration to the rest of the world.

 

[Eric Graham]

I say make the ride trackless, that way you can replicate the turntable without actually having to build a complicated turntable system.

do you honestly think that will ever happen? how long has it been since they've touched figment?

 

[Dragonman]

It’s definitely a rather creative approach in vein with the “Imagination” theme. Cars go in and encounter Dreamfinder in his Dream Catcher as they rotate around him in the centre of the room then segue off.

You have to remember the original turntable sequence was quite elaborate and costly with there being 5 different copies of the scene running at once. It was quite a maintenance headache too.

I think if they did a trackless version and had him floating in the middle of the room similar to the Madame Leota scene it could save quite a bit of room and resources.

Technology has definitely improved over the past 42 years and they could really pull off something impressive if they tried.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

It’s definitely a rather creative approach in vein with the “Imagination” theme. Cars go in and encounter Dreamfinder in his Dream Catcher as they rotate around him in the centre of the room then segue off.

You have to remember the original turntable sequence was quite elaborate and costly with there being 5 different copies of the scene running at once. It was quite a maintenance headache too.

I think if they did a trackless version and had him floating in the middle of the room similar to the Madame Leota scene it could save quite a bit of room and resources.

Technology has definitely improved over the past 42 years and they could really pull off something impressive if they tried.
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While a decent idea on paper, part of the trouble is by “rotating around”, it doesn’t work as in the flying machine scene in the original, he’s looking at us and at Figment, addressing both him & us. There certainly wouldn’t be anything to see in the back of his machine, and what then are Dreamfinder & Figment looking at? They can’t have their heads spinning around in circles constantly and Figment’s inside the hatch so half of the time you won’t be able to see him. On that note.. I actually went and saw a model they had on display at the Van Eaton not too long ago. Again, these are the views the vehicles would have. Not to mention, the whole point is he’s flying ‘alongside’ us as we’re journeying into the realms of imagination with them. Again, totally get what you’re going for.. but I find it pretty silly that the WDI of today can’t actually fix or find a solution to something that had tech problems simply due to reasonable computer limitations at the time, that being timing. And again, if they have all the old blueprints and stuff. Surely they could find a solution. My hope is somehow they find a way to justify spending the amount of money they need to get it fixed, no matter how much it’d cost. Cause at the end of the day, it’s a guaranteed ROI. Honestly. They’re truly obtuse if they don’t see that, ‘especially’ after looking at various data (including merch sales) aswell as learning the full history of this attraction and seeing all the evidence of how & why it got changed the crazy way it did, especially going from the marvelous ride we had at first to the absolute embarrasing joke of a Honey I Shrunk themed sham we have now. It honest to God is a blatant sham in every sense (lol, the irony) of the word. And if they don’t atleast see ‘that’, I don’t know what else to say

 

[Homemade Imagineering]

Also a thing that’ll bring a bunch of goodwill back, especially for us huge Parks fans.

My gut feeling is telling me they might capitalize off of a redo to create a distraction for (rightfully so) disgruntled MV3D fans. There’s a lot of love for both IPs and they generally attract the same demographic of parks fans

 

[Brer Panther]

It’s especially a timely story & concept too. As it celebrates human imagination, in an age of AI taking over.

Somebody tell Dr. Nigel Channing that the folks who created AI have succeeded in capturing and controling the imagination.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Somebody tell Dr. Nigel Channing that the folks who created AI have succeeded in capturing and controling the imagination.