DHS MuppetVision 3-D's Future: Potential Disney Park Venues and Vision Pro Immersive Experience

FettFan

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If that sad day ever does come and Disney decides to remove the COP I would love to see it donated to the Queens museum. It’s located at the site of the NYC Worlds Fair where it debuted in 1964. However, I’m afraid the upkeep cost would be very expensive for any museum to maintain properly.
It would probably go to the Disney Family Museum in San Francisco.
 

erasure fan1

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Some of those ideas sound great.

But most people here wouldn't even want that. They want the original.
That's because the confidence in Disney updating the attraction to come anywhere close to what Jim did is slim to zero. The show is almost perfect. Outside of updating a few things like Waldo or improving the animatronics, there's not much to improve. Just put it in a smaller theater and restore the fountain to its original form. Now you have a nice Muppets mini-land. And you spent very little in the grand scheme of things.
 

TheMaxRebo

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If that sad day ever does come and Disney decides to remove the COP I would love to see it donated to the Queens museum. It’s located at the site of the NYC Worlds Fair where it debuted in 1964. However, I’m afraid the upkeep cost would be very expensive for any museum to maintain properly.

That would be a good idea - I was just at the Queens Museum for the D23 event and it is a nice space. Adding this would be great but agree about the upkeep and not like they would have the appropriate/ knowledgeable maintain e staff already
 

JohnD

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Worth a repost ?


Watching this makes me appreciate it even more. Not just the 3D movie but the AAs, effects, and an actor portraying Sweetums. No show has been as immersive. Watching Statler and Waldorf reacting to everything shows how much better these AAs are than anything that went into Tiana. We had hoped that the Splash replacement would live up to its reputation. It didn't. I'm not hopeful about a Monsters, Inc. replacement show.
 
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EagleScout610

Owner of a RKF - Resting Kermit Face
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Watching this makes me appreciate it even more. Not just the 3D movie but the AAs, effects, and an actor portraying Sweetums. No show has been as immersive. Watching Stadler and Waldorf reacting to everything shows how much better these AAs are than anything that went into Tiana. We had hoped that the Splash replacement would live up to its reputation. It didn't. I'm not hopeful about a Monsters, Inc. replacement show.
One of my favorite details is that Statler and Waldorf actually lower their glasses to start the show and "adjust" them when getting back up after the "WE SURRENDER!!" gag
 

JohnD

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One of my favorite details is that Statler and Waldorf actually lower their glasses to start the show and "adjust" them when getting back up after the "WE SURRENDER!!" gag
Here's a video of Statler and Waldorf only (with main show in lower right) that was shared already. Makes you appreciate that they programmed them to react to everything in the entire show. Also, a detail that most probably don't notice: arrows appear out of the wall and their balcony to imitate arrows shot out from the glorious minute and half finale.

 

WorldExplorer

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How do they pull off them having flags for the "we surrender!" joke, then losing them for the last few moments of the show?

I'm guessing they each have a separate arm with the flag the whole time that only moves into view for the gag (while the animatronics' "real" arms are out of view)?
 

EagleScout610

Owner of a RKF - Resting Kermit Face
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How do they pull off them having flags for the "we surrender!" joke, then losing them for the last few moments of the show?

I'm guessing they each have a separate arm with the flag the whole time that only moves into view for the gag (while the animatronics' "real" arms are out of view)?
Yeah, it's a third arm that pops up when the figures duck down. There's a video of Statler's flag arm being stuck up after he's popped back up. I'll have to track it down.
 

mattpeto

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Watching this makes me appreciate it even more. Not just the 3D movie but the AAs, effects, and an actor portraying Sweetums. No show has been as immersive. Watching Statler and Waldorf reacting to everything shows how much better these AAs are than anything that went into Tiana. We had hoped that the Splash replacement would live up to its reputation. It didn't. I'm not hopeful about a Monsters, Inc. replacement show.
Agreed, I think it's an extremely high bar.

But if MV3D would relocate (very doubtful), it would take some pressure off it to be as great. Guess we'll find out.
 

Figments Friend

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How do they pull off them having flags for the "we surrender!" joke, then losing them for the last few moments of the show?

I'm guessing they each have a separate arm with the flag the whole time that only moves into view for the gag (while the animatronics' "real" arms are out of view)?

‘Muppet Magic’, of course!

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YouMakeTheWorldGoRound

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Here's a video of Statler and Waldorf only (with main show in lower right) that was shared already. Makes you appreciate that they programmed them to react to everything in the entire show. Also, a detail that most probably don't notice: arrows appear out of the wall and their balcony to imitate arrows shot out from the glorious minute and half finale.


One thing that I realized a few years back after listening to the source audio is that one of the penguins is actually playing the high hat cymbal live in the theatre, it's not in the soundtrack.
 

Parker41056

Active Member
That's because the confidence in Disney updating the attraction to come anywhere close to what Jim did is slim to zero. The show is almost perfect. Outside of updating a few things like Waldo or improving the animatronics, there's not much to improve. Just put it in a smaller theater and restore the fountain to its original form. Now you have a nice Muppets mini-land. And you spent very little in the grand scheme of things.
I just can't see Disney just moving this show and tech to another theater without updates and changes. I agree that confidence is low that Disney would get a refresh 'right' but that's the only option I see. Something 'plussed' and have a wider marketing penetration. Something that would fill the seats again as capacity see to be very low on most shows. I think it would need to have a better screen, updated animatronics, and most important - a gimmick such as 4D, seat effects, and/or new storyline. If the fans just want the same show, I'm afraid that may only be found virtually in the future.

Just saw that with the closure of this show, Disney no longer has any current operating Muppets attractions. I'm for letting Imagineers attempt to bring the next Muppets Vision to life and with that invest in a mini land around RnRC. Mini land could include: 1) Retheme RnRC, 2) Muppets Vision 4D: Mayhem. 3) Use back of Hollywood Vine and Hollywood Scoops to create a new Swedish Chef quick serve and specialty Muppet themed ice cream. 4) Meet & Greet and merch. Even though this would not be the OG Muppet Vision, having this investment and new offerings would have to go a long way in satisfying the average fan but maybe not the die hard.
 

lightningtap347

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Something that would fill the seats again as capacity see to be very low on most shows
This is such an interesting observation I've seen multiple times now. Not that it matters anymore, but I had seen the numbers for this show and the utilization rate was very healthy, far above what people seemingly stated seeing "empty" theaters.

For all intents and purposes, this went away not due to popularity, but due to cheapness at the hands of Disney wanting to use existing brick facades in their retheme (my opinion).
 

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