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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Pix E. Dust

Well-Known Member
I must be an outlier here, but I love Netflix. We have Amazon Prime too, but I always seem to go back to Netflex for the variety and quality of shows. I like that they have the older shows instead of all new properties. If I had to get rid of one of the streaming services, it would definitely Not be Netflix.
I agree. Netflix is hands down my favourite. The price is good too. Crave (Canadian) would be my second choice and Prime would be my third. I subscribe to D+ from time to time but cancel it after the month. (For instance, at Christmas, we wanted to watch Hamilton.) I just don't find there is enough on there for adults.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
How exactly is trying to lock people into longterm monthly subscriptions with rising fees and ads not like linear?
I said that the payment of content is the similarity. But that is going to be the case no matter how the content is being shipped to the consumer. There will not be this "free" option for all content without some payment, whether that be a direct subscription or with ads. The "man" will always get the dollar in the end.

Did you have the Betamax of linear back in the day?
I've had all the tech going back to the 70s, so yes. I even had the first cable offering in my area back before Disney Channel was even a thing in Jimirro's eye.

This take is less stable…since the bailout can be done with a swipe (not the company giving you the runaround about a guy with plumbers crack coming out in 6 weeks to turn it off)…and with enhanced tech an alternative would come far faster than it did for linear.
This was always going to happen even before streaming, as I don't know about your area up in the North East, but out here in the West we can cancel our cable with the click of a button. No visit from a guy, no runaround on the phone. Just a click and cancel, this has been the case for a long time now.

So yeah the lock-in days of linear has pretty much also ended. Its a new world my friend, lots of things change. :)
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Back to front…

The review aggregators are up to 75-85% for the blue guy…despite some usual vile from the “high standards” outlets…

So it’s gonna be big. I know the theaters around me are juiced with presells…and we’re miserable and have no joy here 😎
 

Serpico Jones

Well-Known Member
Marvel has now moved to the SW Christmas release schedule. Interesting. Also interesting to note that Disney has not dated or announced another Marvel film after Secret Wars...or am I misremembering?
 

Nevermore525

Well-Known Member
Marvel has now moved to the SW Christmas release schedule. Interesting. Also interesting to note that Disney has not dated or announced another Marvel film after Secret Wars...or am I misremembering?
They removed November Marvel films from 2026, and 2027.

The Star Wars film originally planned for December 2026 was removed in 2024 in favor of Ice Age 6.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Surprised you’ve even seen commercials for Elio. Disney has put minimal effort behind marketing that movie.

It makes no sense, really. I get all the Disney commercials on YouTube for whatever new tentpole Burbank is releasing from; Pixar, Marvel, WDAS, Disney, etc. I don't subscribe to Disney+ or Hulu, only have a passing interest in ESPN during the US Open or Wimbledon, and I no longer have a Disneyland AP or any financial account linked to Disney, and I don't watch any Disney podcasts or lifestylers on YouTube.

That said, the YouTube algorithm is spooky but not entirely accurate yet. My hunch is that I get all the Disney commercials because I am subscribed and watch repeatedly the "Disney" content Jack Plotnick releases. He's been a favorite of mine for over a decade now! Hysterical stuff, like this....



How much of that new content is watchable… I subscribed to all the major streaming services… after I cut the cord and I watch Netflix the least… that just shows how much more billions Netflix is spending than anyone else

I cut the cord years ago too. But I only subscribe to Netflix, and get Amazon Prime as a love gift from Jeff Bezos and his benevolent empire. I recently watched two (2) episodes of From Meghan, With Love just to see how awful it was. And it turns out people weren't lying, it is truly an awful and cringey fabrication of a show. Thumbs Down for the Duchess!

My favorite thing to do is to wait for something I want to watch, like I'm currently waiting for Season 3 of the Gilded Age on HBOMax. Then I subscribe to that outlet for one month, watch and enjoy the new thing, and promptly unsubscribe with a few taps at the remote. That can't be what the streamer execs are hoping people will do, but I think it's fun.

Are we ready for the King of rock and roll to return this weekend, and dominate the box office?

Stitch of course.

My gosh yes! Burbank has lost hundreds of millions of dollars at the 2025 box office already (Captain America 4, Rachel Zegler's Snow White, The Amateur, Thunderbolts?), so they desperately need a huge tentpole hit. With it's bargain basement budget of just $100 Million, and Variety reporting Disney spent $100 Million on its global marketing, it should be able to become profitable for Burbank by early June.

Burbank needs this right now!

 

Nevermore525

Well-Known Member
My gosh yes! Burbank has lost hundreds of millions of dollars at the 2025 box office already (Captain America 4, Rachel Zegler's Snow White, The Amateur, Thunderbolts?), so they desperately need a huge tentpole hit. With its bargain basement budget of just $100 Million, and Variety reporting Disney spent $100 Million on its global marketing, it should be able to become profitable for Burbank by early June.

Burbank needs this right now!

Tbf Cap 4 and Thunderbolts won’t lose a whole ton of money if any when all is said and done. Between box office, PVOD, and licensing they’ll break even to turn a small profit.

Snow White was DOA with every controversy and budgetary issues surrounding it. That was a lost cause and Disney cut back on their marketing with that one too.

Stitch had $1B written on it in the box office before reviews even dropped just from the hype machine behind the character and how much in merch sales he brings.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Tbf Cap 4 and Thunderbolts won’t lose a whole ton of money if any when all is said and done. Between box office, PVOD, and licensing they’ll break even to turn a small profit.

Snow White was DOA with every controversy and budgetary issues surrounding it. That was a lost cause and Disney cut back on their marketing with that one too.

Stitch had $1B written on it in the box office before reviews even dropped just from the hype machine behind the character and how much in merch sales he brings.
We gonna do this again? They failed to meet their objectives…whether or not they can line item account them down to “break even” misses the entire point of Disneys core business: money and returns

Stitch is what they want…what they wanted from mermaid and all the marvel flops…and what they got from Moana and Inside Out. The ability to make a lot of money for a lot of years to come.

I think people don’t really understand Disney all that well…behind the boardroom door.
They expect nothing but success.

It’s similar to discussions where I say they expect all there hotel rooms to be occupied 365 days a year at 100%.

“They can’t expect that”

No…they really can.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Okay gang, here we go into Memorial Day Weekend! I put up my HOA approved patriotic overlay on the house this morning, and I've got a fridge full of red meat to grill for folks. In the midst of all the summer kickoff fun, fun, fun this weekend... let's not forget we are enjoying this long weekend because of all the brave men and women who died defending our great nation over the past 250 years. Thank you to all of them! 🇺🇸

And of course, Memorial Day Weekend is the kickoff to the summer box office! Lilo & Stitch in 4,410! theaters beat out Mission: Impossible 8 at the previews yesterday. Burbank has to be pleased about that!

Try To Remember This Weekend.jpg

 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Okay gang, here we go into Memorial Day Weekend! I put up my HOA approved patriotic overlay on the house this morning, and I've got a fridge full of red meat to grill for folks. In the midst of all the summer kickoff fun, fun, fun this weekend... let's not forget we are enjoying this long weekend because of all the brave men and women who died defending our great nation over the past 250 years. Thank you to all of them! 🇺🇸

And of course, Memorial Day Weekend is the kickoff to the summer box office! Lilo & Stitch in 4,410! theaters beat out Mission: Impossible 8 at the previews yesterday. Burbank has to be pleased about that!

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I dispute this…technically it’s only 249 official years 😎

(But it actually is 250)
 

Nevermore525

Well-Known Member
We gonna do this again? They failed to meet their objectives…whether or not they can line item account them down to “break even” misses the entire point of Disneys core business: money and returns

Stitch is what they want…what they wanted from mermaid and all the marvel flops…and what they got from Moana and Inside Out. The ability to make a lot of money for a lot of years to come.

I think people don’t really understand Disney all that well…behind the boardroom door.
They expect nothing but success.

It’s similar to discussions where I say they expect all there hotel rooms to be occupied 365 days a year at 100%.

“They can’t expect that”

No…they really can.
And on the reported balance sheet thus far for Calendar 2025 the Studios sector is ahead of where they were in Calendar 2024.

That said the box office in general domestically for 2025 is still behind that of 2024 with Disney likely still 2nd or at the top of a dwindling domestic box office by the end of May.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Just for fun, here's the inflation adjusted comparison to the first 2002 Lilo & Stitch vs. the 2025 live action remake. The first one in '02 wasn't a box office hit, but it seems the live action remake will do much better. And again, that incredibly modest (for Burbank) production budget of only $100 Million in 2025 is really going to help a great deal for profitability!

It Takes Two To Hula.jpg
 

brideck

Well-Known Member
Burbank has lost hundreds of millions of dollars at the 2025 box office already (Captain America 4, Rachel Zegler's Snow White, The Amateur, Thunderbolts?), so they desperately need a huge tentpole hit.

I'm sure this will be disagreed with, but I don't remember this being posted previously. Deadline (using the same formulations they use to determine the end-of-year successes and failures each Spring) has Snow White as losing less than one would think, primarily because of its post-theatrical allotment. We'll see next Spring if they ultimately stick with that number when the year's biggest bombs are revisited.


If so, that would help make this make more sense:
And on the reported balance sheet thus far for Calendar 2025 the Studios sector is ahead of where they were in Calendar 2024.
 

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