Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Disney Irish]

Correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t “being shopped” mean they have a script and are trying to find someone to bankroll it?

Until a studio, production company, or financial backer decides it’s worth risking their money on the movie it’s just an idea.

Being shopped typically (at least as I'm aware) means they are looking for a distribution partner. There are at least two production companies already attached, so I believe that means they already have most if not all financing. Just need someone to distribute it.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Being shopped typically (at least as I'm aware) means they are looking for a distribution partner. There are at least two production companies already attached, so I believe that means they already have most if not all financing. Just need someone to distribute it.

They sounds a lot closer to happening than my Google search did.

Seems like every time I turn on ESPN this week (for hockey) they are talking about Shedeur Sanders, everyone seems to agree he has talent and potential but his off the field issues are harming his career options… I think Zegler is the Shedeur of the acting world, if she can get her public image problems resolved I think she’ll be fine, if she can’t though, and another movie of hers has offscreen issues, I don’t think any level of talent is going to salvage her career.

 

[Disney Irish]

They sounds a lot closer to happening than my Google search did.

The Variety article has 3311 and Seven Elephants attached as production companies, they are both known for producing indy movies.

So its clear this is moving forward. So whether its gets only a small release, a wide release, or even goes to streaming I expect it'll get made.

Seems like every time I turn on ESPN this week (for hockey) they are talking about Shedeur Sanders, everyone seems to agree he has talent and potential but his off the field issues are harming his career options… I think Zegler is the Shedeur of the acting world, if she can get her public image problems resolved I think she’ll be fine, if she can’t though, and another movie of hers has offscreen issues, I don’t think any level of talent is going to salvage her career.

I understand the point and comparison you're trying to make, but pro athletes are different, they have a fairly short career as it is and so any hit on or off the field will affect their career.

There have been many actors that have had issues off-screen and still have a long career that spans many decades. I think its a bit too early to start the "her career can't be salvages if she doesn't ...." talk. Which was the whole point of posting the article about her next project. Its clear she is still able to book jobs so soon after the issues she has faced, I mean Snow is literally still in theaters. Which shows that her career isn't in dire straits as many claimed around here.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

just not enough broad appeal in America to lead blockbusters

…for now.

Zegler has proven to be divisive

…for now.

First: she said what I’m guessing most actors think.

Second: no one will remember this in 10 years.

Third: as the popularity of her target continues to wane, her comments will hit differently.

 

[DKampy]

…for now.


…for now.

First: she said what I’m guessing most actors think.

Second: no one will remember this in 10 years.

Third: as the popularity of her target continues to wane, her comments will hit differently.

Fourth: Zegler’s comments are not an a concern among the average person…. She is not Kevin Spacey or R Kelly….there are more pressing Issues these days…. I know the only place I ever see Zegler’s opinions talked about in real life is in this little internet bubble

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don't get it (I do, but I don't).

Thunderbolts* actually appears to be good now, so what exactly are we hoping is achieved if it does poorly? Clearly there remains an appetite for everything they do to bomb out of a few posters.

It’s indicative of the state of the brand…that’s all.

If it’s a decent movie…it will do fine.

If it’s not…it won’t be accepted. It’s kinda where their franchises are…

I still say stitch will crush though…however

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

It’s indicative of the state of the brand…that’s all.

If it’s a decent movie…it will do fine.

If it’s not…it won’t be accepted. It’s kinda where their franchises are…

I still say stitch will crush though…however

I agree that Stitch will be this summers big hit, or the next big hit since Minecraft was already a big hit, but among my friends Thunderbolts has pretty good buzz already, I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up in the $700 million range.

I’m getting a Guardians vibe from the trailers and that type of comedy superhero mix has done well for the MCU in the past.

We’ll see in a couple weeks, it will be nice to have something new from Disney to talk about.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I assume we’re all talking about the Marvel movie with 89% positive ratings on RT?

No? Still Zegler?

Man, a lot of folks are so insecure in their principles that they react really aggressively to anyone refusing to tell them what good people they are.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I agree that Stitch will be this summers big hit, or the next big hit since Minecraft was already a big hit, but among my friends Thunderbolts has pretty good buzz already, I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up in the $700 million range.

I’m getting a Guardians vibe from the trailers and that type of comedy superhero mix has done well for the MCU in the past.

We’ll see in a couple weeks, it will be nice to have something new from Disney to talk about.

The trailers for Stitch are actually winning me over. I've never seen the original. Might just get me to the theater.

Thunderbolts: I don't really know what to make of it. I'm familiar with a few of the characters. Might be a filler MCU movie. Even that should be a decent popcorn flick.

We've been doing the movie theater a little more regularly lately. It really has gotten expensive. At least I can use my Chase Disney Visa rewards points to pay for tickets to Disney movies.

Went to see The Amateur on Tuesday night. It was the only thing that seemed interesting. It was good, probably could have watched it at home, but it was basically "date night." I think what kept it interesting was the main guy was not a trained assassin, expert military guy, or anything else (hence the title.) It was not over the top big booms and what not, more clever ways of getting revenge for the murder of his wife. It was the less action-y action flick. Better than "Taken," I thought.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Thunderbolts: I don't really know what to make of it. I'm familiar with a few of the characters. Might be a filler MCU movie. Even that should be a decent popcorn flick.

Not sure how you mean “filler.” From the reviews, Thunderbolts is the rare MCU film that is ABOUT something, with a unique vision from the writer and director. As to connections to the larger storyline, word is the film is very important.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I agree that Stitch will be this summers big hit, or the next big hit since Minecraft was already a big hit, but among my friends Thunderbolts has pretty good buzz already, I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up in the $700 million range.

I’m getting a Guardians vibe from the trailers and that type of comedy superhero mix has done well for the MCU in the past.

We’ll see in a couple weeks, it will be nice to have something new from Disney to talk about.

That would be a big win for Disney…no doubt

in the end…enjoyable movies sell and bad productions fail. Most of the time

 

[easyrowrdw]

Not sure how you mean “filler.” From the reviews, Thunderbolts is the rare MCU film that is ABOUT something, with a unique vision from the writer and director. As to connections to the larger storyline, word is the film is very important.

I kinda have the same thoughts as Tony. It's a movie that has a bunch of second or third level characters in it. I look at the pictures and I'm like, "Oh it's Bucky and the other Black Widow girl and who is the big guy with the beard again? Am I supposed to know who all these other people are?"

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The trailers for Stitch are actually winning me over. I've never seen the original. Might just get me to the theater.

Thunderbolts: I don't really know what to make of it. I'm familiar with a few of the characters. Might be a filler MCU movie. Even that should be a decent popcorn flick.

We've been doing the movie theater a little more regularly lately. It really has gotten expensive. At least I can use my Chase Disney Visa rewards points to pay for tickets to Disney movies.

Went to see The Amateur on Tuesday night. It was the only thing that seemed interesting. It was good, probably could have watched it at home, but it was basically "date night." I think what kept it interesting was the main guy was not a trained assassin, expert military guy, or anything else (hence the title.) It was not over the top big booms and what not, more clever ways of getting revenge for the murder of his wife. It was the less action-y action flick. Better than "Taken," I thought.

Stitch is probably the best example of how a Disney property can dominate via brand saturation…

It was kinda a nothing when it was released…but has pumped product everyday since…like a thunderous machine

I think it’s gonna reap 10 figures…but I’ve been wrong before

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Not sure how you mean “filler.” From the reviews, Thunderbolts is the rare MCU film that is ABOUT something, with a unique vision from the writer and director. As to connections to the larger storyline, word is the film is very important.

It’s filler because it’s B characters

We keep trying to act like that doesn’t matter…but it surely does.

Pay your draws…don’t off them

Anyone notice this doom thing is a trainwreck per the trades?

 

[brideck]

I kinda have the same thoughts as Tony. It's a movie that has a bunch of second or third level characters in it. I look at the pictures and I'm like, "Oh it's Bucky and the other Black Widow girl and who is the big guy with the beard again? Am I supposed to know who all these other people are?"

Why would you need to know who characters are before seeing a movie? If it's doing its job, you'll learn enough to know them by watching it.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Why would you need to know who characters are before seeing a movie? If it's doing its job, you'll learn enough to know them by watching it.

In 1989…a visionary named “Al gore” invented the internet

It changed the landscape over time where success is determined by real time, multimedia saturation

It’s not based on some stoners reading comics in a San Bernardino shop in 1974…

There is no way you’re an Xer with this Pollyanna stuff…can’t be

 

[easyrowrdw]

Why would you need to know who characters are before seeing a movie? If it's doing its job, you'll learn enough to know them by watching it.

I didn't say I did. I said that was the reaction I had when I saw pictures of the movie.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I assume we’re all talking about the Marvel movie with 89% positive ratings on RT?

No? Still Zegler?

Man, a lot of folks are so insecure in their principles that they react really aggressively to anyone refusing to tell them what good people they are.

Uh…took you 5 seconds to oh so cleverly hint at somekinda of vast anti Disney conspiracy

You’re playing 4D chess as always

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I didn't say I did. I said that was the reaction I had when I saw pictures of the movie.

The marketing had been really bad…I think they’ve been stung by flops and hedged a little

But it will be nice if the movie powers through

 

[Casper Gutman]

It’s filler because it’s B characters

We keep trying to act like that doesn’t matter…but it surely does.

Pay your draws…don’t off them

Anyone notice this doom thing is a trainwreck per the trades?

It’s not B characters. Captain America, Iron Man, Thor - those are B characters. These are C and D characters, like Starlord and Shang-Chi and Groot. The “level” of the character has nothing to do with the quality of the film.

Would you like to cite a source for Doom being a “train wreck?”