Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[brideck]

And there’s no sense going the Irish “we don’t know what the movies will be like later…” with that terrible sequel set. They’re awful…a bland reboot and two unwatchable pieces of digital trash. They have no “longterm”

But again... we're talking about kids here. Even if I take your descriptors at face value (not that I agree with them), 8-year olds watch all sorts of "digital trash" and grow up having warm, nostalgic feelings about it anyway. We really can't predict what the long-term feelings about them will be from that set of people.

It's very clear what your long-term feelings for them are, but that's neither here nor there.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

20 year old film Disney didn't make does gangbuster. Obvious how Star Wars fans will come out to see real Star Wars.

 

[Disney Irish]

Nostalgia is a funny thing, one can never tell what the masses will be nostalgia for. For example if anyone would have said that the number one movie of 2025 so far would be from a 15 year old open world building game just 5 years ago they would have been lying.

15 years seems to be the when nostalgia starts to hit and just grows stronger from there. So yeah in about 5 years or so we'll see if the 20-somethings at the time are starting to be nostalgic for the ST.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

‘Deadpool & Wolverine’: Disney’s First R-Rated MCU Title Claws Way To $400M Profit And No. 3 On 2024’s Most Valuable Blockbuster List

Deadpool & Wolverine starring Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman helped resurrect superhero cinema with $1.3 billion-plus at the worldwide box office.

deadline.com

 

[brideck]

‘Deadpool & Wolverine’: Disney’s First R-Rated MCU Title Claws Way To $400M Profit And No. 3 On 2024’s Most Valuable Blockbuster List

Deadpool & Wolverine starring Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman helped resurrect superhero cinema with $1.3 billion-plus at the worldwide box office.

deadline.com

Well, there you have it. That should mean that Disney had the three most profitable movies of 2024. The struggle is real.

10 - Sonic 3 - $123.6m
9 - Mufasa - $175.0m
8 - Kung Fu Panda 4 - $178.0m
7 - Dune: Part Two - $184.3m
6 - It Ends With Us - $207.0m
5 - Wicked - $230.0m
4 - Despicable Me 4 - $370.0m
3 - Deadpool & Wolverine - $400.0m

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

But again... we're talking about kids here. Even if I take your descriptors at face value (not that I agree with them), 8-year olds watch all sorts of "digital trash" and grow up having warm, nostalgic feelings about it anyway. We really can't predict what the long-term feelings about them will be from that set of people.

It's very clear what your long-term feelings for them are, but that's neither here nor there.

There will be some kids who cling to it as they age…

But it’s the law of diminishing returns

OT > PT > DT

We shall see


there is already evidence
KK touting daisy Ridley back…which was received like a fart in church

Now the rumor is hide her behind Ryan gosling

Which is actually smart. Rush it into production and get it made. Use it as a platform to try and rebuild

Even “hubritic” Disney might actually be learning they can’t force a fanbase into existence

 

[BrianLo]

Well, there you have it. That should mean that Disney had the three most profitable movies of 2024. The struggle is real.

Interesting the way Moana 2 is breaking up. I think there are some massive backends coming considering Moana 1 remains the number one streamed movie every year.

 

[BrianLo]

But again... we're talking about kids here. Even if I take your descriptors at face value (not that I agree with them), 8-year olds watch all sorts of "digital trash" and grow up having warm, nostalgic feelings about it anyway. We really can't predict what the long-term feelings about them will be from that set of people.

It's very clear what your long-term feelings for them are, but that's neither here nor there.

Agree. The difference in this conversation is we are not talking about movies that weren’t watched and maybe will catch on. Kids again saw these ones.

Certainly episode 7 and 8 did very, very well. So I really think it’s fair of us to say we don’t know. Episode 2 was and is objectively awful, yet prequels generated nostalgia in a cohort Gen X swore it wouldn’t.

I’m not a true Star Wars guy, but my millennial friends fit that classic demo, who really like prequels and the filoni output.

 

[Stripes]

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[Baloo124]

Episode 2 was and is objectively awful

I know people like to target Episode 1 as the punching bag of that trilogy, and for obvious Jar Jar reasons.
But Episode 2 was my least favorite of all those.

At least the Ep 1 stupidity can be laughed at, and redeemed somewhat with Duel of the Fates... one of my favorite scenes in any SW.
Ep 2, however, just seems unwatchable today, at least most of it. For me at least.

 

[Basil of Baker Street]

I really like the prequels when they came out. Looking back I think i was just starved for Star Wars. Now, they're just kind of meh. Sequels are hot garbage.

 

[Disney Irish]

For those worried about Rachel Zegler's future movie prospects she has already lined up her next role co-starring alongside Marisa Tomei -

Rachel Zegler to Star Alongside Marisa Tomei in Comedy Drama ‘She Gets It From Me’ (EXCLUSIVE)

Embankment Films is selling the film, which marks Zegler's first after Snow White and sees her play the daughter of Tomei's anarchic birth mother

variety.com

 

[Prince-1]

For those worried about Rachel Zegler's future movie prospects she has already lined up her next role co-starring alongside Marisa Tomei -

Rachel Zegler to Star Alongside Marisa Tomei in Comedy Drama ‘She Gets It From Me’ (EXCLUSIVE)

Embankment Films is selling the film, which marks Zegler's first after Snow White and sees her play the daughter of Tomei's anarchic birth mother

variety.com

How can that be??? A few of the movie experts on here said that her career was over and that she wouldn't work again???

 

[brideck]

How can that be??? A few of the movie experts on here said that her career was over and that she wouldn't work again???

No, no. You fail to understand the game. It's not a tentpole/blockbuster, therefore it's not real work. [See Daisy Ridley, et al]

 

[Ghost93]

How can that be??? A few of the movie experts on here said that her career was over and that she wouldn't work again???

Zegler definitely has a fanbase, just not enough broad appeal in America to lead blockbusters that cost more than $200 million. I think she can still have a very successful career in smaller, actor-focused projects. She's a very good actress, so I think she will always be able to find some kind of work.

 

[Prince-1]

No, no. You fail to understand the game. It's not a tentpole/blockbuster, therefore it's not real work. [See Daisy Ridley, et al]

Yeah a few people did say that she was done making big budget movies. I guess she's down to small indie movies and local theater productions. Hopefully she will endure this career implosion.

 

[Disney Irish]

Zegler definitely has a fanbase, just not enough broad appeal in America to lead blockbusters that cost more than $200 million. I think she can still have a very successful career in smaller, actor-focused projects. She's a very good actress, so I think she will always be able to find some kind of work.

In all fairness very few actors can lead a blockbuster that costs over $200M and has broad appeal. Its the reason why you see the same actors over and over in these movies. And even then not all are successful 100% of the time.

 

[Baloo124]

For those worried about Rachel Zegler's future movie prospects she has already lined up her next role co-starring alongside Marisa Tomei -

Rachel Zegler to Star Alongside Marisa Tomei in Comedy Drama ‘She Gets It From Me’ (EXCLUSIVE)

Embankment Films is selling the film, which marks Zegler's first after Snow White and sees her play the daughter of Tomei's anarchic birth mother

variety.com

How can that be??? A few of the movie experts on here said that her career was over and that she wouldn't work again???

I'm going to take a wild guess here, and say that Jeremy from Geeks and Gamers YT channel has already seen this movie, walked out of the theater, and has made 10+ new videos talking about how it's woke trash.

Oh... what's that? They haven't started production of her new movie yet? Well I can 100% guarantee you it's his least favorite movie of (insert year it's released here).

 

[Ghost93]

In all fairness very few actors can lead a blockbuster that costs over $200M and has broad appeal. Its the reason why you see the same actors over and over in these movies. And even then not all are successful 100% of the time.

Zegler has proven to be divisive. I say that as a fan of her acting who wants her to succeed. I think she can still continue to be true to herself and what she believes in and still have a good career, I just don't think the Disney machine is the right fit for her. I think A24-type films or an HBO prestige drama is more likely where she will thrive.

 

[Disney Irish]

Zegler has proven to be divisive. I say that as a fan of her acting who wants her to succeed. I think she can still continue to be true to herself and what she believes in and still have a good career, I just don't think the Disney machine is the right fit for her. I think A24-type films or an HBO prestige drama is more likely where she will thrive.

Well remember that Disney has its own studio just for those type of films, Searchlight. So she still can be in the "Disney" machine and still make those type of movies if that is what both parties choose to do.

But beyond that I highly doubt she will be limited to just indy/low budget fair the rest of her career. She'll be in a blockbuster again even if its part of an ensemble cast, she is too talented not to. I mean Snow White isn't even out of theaters yet, so she already beat out the odds the "experts" here set who claimed she'd never book a movie again or at least for a very long time.