Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Exactly this….the people upset choose their battles to prove everyone agrees with their narrative…. Every film they hate on is apparent it will not do well even without the controversies

So the hate network…again?

And I thought I was too repetitive

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Snow White has a 1.5 on IMDB. That makes it one of the worst rated movies of all time.

But there’s no hate campaign.

Maybe nobody wanted it?

Which was the core of the problem long before the trouble in Gaza.

No one is forced to buy something…indeed rejection keeps the market working as much as success.

Is that hate? Nobody will buy a Tesla now either…not the same 5 years ago

Seasons change

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Can we Knock off the “no one likes Snow White anyway…” excuses?

Thats a lie…to cover failure as usual…and the truth needs to have some value in this thread.

Snow White is as significant and ingrained in why Disney is what it is as Mickey Mouse and Disneyland.

Because people revel in being uneducated/stupid now…does not mean we have to give it air.

They did it wrong…it was handled wrong…in a dozen different levels. Take the hit…demand they do better…and just MAYBE they’ll actually consider not sitting on their brains and attempt to do it?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

This got me thinking. If, as has been claimed, Zegler’s comments are keeping half the country away, why is the other half not showing up either?

I don’t think it’s a majority of the other half, but a not insignificant portion are being kept away by Gadot.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don’t think it’s a majority of the other half, but a not insignificant portion are being kept away by Gadot.

8 billion people are that opinionated about gal gadot and Rachel Zegler?

 

[Agent H]

I don’t think it’s a majority of the other half, but a not insignificant portion are being kept away by Gadot.

In all the conversations about Rachel I must have missed this. What did gadot do?

 

[LittleBuford]

I don’t think it’s a majority of the other half, but a not insignificant portion are being kept away by Gadot.

That seems really, really unlikely to me. The idea that cinema-goers on the left or the right care about either actress to the extent that’s being suggested here just doesn’t ring true.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Side note: I put Mufasa on D+, predicting it would be background fodder as I prepped for our first trip to Costa Rica this Sunday, wondering if it would even play all the way through (as I had seen it in theaters in early January.)

I ended up sitting down and watching all the way through (to the detriment of my laundry.)

It will be interesting to see the streaming numbers since Moana 2 is still relatively fresh to the platform.

 

[LittleBuford]

Side note: I put Mufasa on D+, predicting it would be background fodder as I prepped for our first trip to Costa Rica this Sunday, wondering if it would even play all the way through (as I had seen it in theaters in early January.)

I ended up sitting down and watching all the way through (to the detriment of my laundry.)

It will be interesting to see the streaming numbers since Moana 2 is still relatively fresh to the platform.

I preferred Snow White to Mufasa, including the music. “I Always Wanted a Brother” has to be one of the most irritating songs ever composed!

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

This got me thinking. If, as has been claimed, Zegler’s comments are keeping half the country away, why is the other half not showing up either?

Not sure if this was already shared and I missed it but it was from a couple days ago, blue counties typically represent 67% of total movie ticket sales but only 60% of Snow Whites ticket sales, which ironically means it’s overperforming in red counties and underperforming in blue counties.

‘Snow White’: How Controversial Disney Princess Fared In Blue & Red County Cinemas – Box Office

'Snow White' did better in blue states at the domestic box office, however, the Disney movie overperformed in red states.

deadline.com

 

[LittleBuford]

8 billion people are that opinionated about gal gadot and Rachel Zegler?

According to many here, including and especially the poster you’ve declared our resident expert, @TP2000, a very large number of people cared deeply about Zegler’s statements. I tend to share your scepticism in this regard.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

In all the conversations about Rachel I must have missed this. What did gadot do?

Gadot is not Jewish…she’s Israeli. And makes no bones about her opinions.

That rubs a lot of people…just as the “free Palestine” side or the isle does

 

[LittleBuford]

Not sure if this was already shared and I missed it but it was from a couple days ago, blue counties typically represent 67% of total movie ticket sales but only 60% of Snow Whites ticket sales, which ironically means it’s overperforming in red counties and underperforming in blue counties.

‘Snow White’: How Controversial Disney Princess Fared In Blue & Red County Cinemas – Box Office

'Snow White' did better in blue states at the domestic box office, however, the Disney movie overperformed in red states.

deadline.com

That doesn’t surprise me at all and only bears out how needlessly political people have made this.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

According to many here, including and especially the poster you’ve declared our resident expert, @TP2000, a very large number of people cared deeply about Zegler’s statements. I tend to share your scepticism in this regard.

Enough to tank a movie to this level worldwide?

…that’s a bridge too far.

It just was an unwanted movie…and that is the mistake by Disney. They can’t label and sell whatever they want in this environment. Simply do better

 

[Tony the Tigger]

In all the conversations about Rachel I must have missed this. What did gadot do?

Don’t think it can be discussed here, but a quick google should help.

That seems really, really unlikely to me. The idea that cinema-goers on the left or the right care about either actress to the extent that’s being suggested here just doesn’t ring true.

As someone who spends more time on sites like FB and Instagram, I’ll tell you what I tell the folks who doubt racism: the proof is in the posting. Every Disney post about this film has about 20-35% support and positive reviews, about 10-15% general “woke Disney” comments, about 35-40% anti-Rachel comments for all the different reasons, and about 15-20% anti-Gadot comments (not including the ones about her acting) which have ramped up since the film was released and she received her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That doesn’t surprise me at all and only bears out how needlessly political people have made this.

I posted that

So it defangs “the hate network” myth for this one

Do we have an “apathy cabal”? Is that a thing…because they should claim responsibility

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Side note: I put Mufasa on D+, predicting it would be background fodder as I prepped for our first trip to Costa Rica this Sunday, wondering if it would even play all the way through (as I had seen it in theaters in early January.)

I ended up sitting down and watching all the way through (to the detriment of my laundry.)

It will be interesting to see the streaming numbers since Moana 2 is still relatively fresh to the platform.

I didn’t even realize Mufasa was on D+ already, I’ll have to go check it out.

It pains me to say this since Moana is one of my all time favorite Disney movies but I haven’t even finished Moana 2 yet, I’ve tried several times over the last couple weeks but I just can’t get into it, it kind of gives me 90s straight to video vibes.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I preferred Snow White to Mufasa, including the music. “I Always Wanted a Brother” has to be one of the most irritating songs ever composed!

I agree about “Brothaaaa” and thought so immediately in the theater, but overall, I enjoyed Mufasa more.

 

[LittleBuford]

Gadot is not Jewish…she’s Israeli.

Maybe there’s a typo here, but she’s Jewish too—as most Israelis are. And if you mean she’s not religious (I don’t know one way or the other), one doesn’t have to be in order to be Jewish—it’s an ethnicity as well as a religion.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Don’t think it can be discussed here, but a quick google should help.

As someone who spends more time on sites like FB and Instagram, I’ll tell you what I tell the folks who doubt racism: the proof is in the posting. Every Disney post about this film has about 20-35% support and positive reviews, about 10-15% general “woke Disney” comments, about 35-40% anti-Rachel comments for all the different reasons, and about 15-20% anti-Gadot comments (not including the ones about her acting) which have ramped up since the film was released and she received her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Social media comments are not what woujd sink a huge release movie. It would not keep grandmas from taking their kiddies…

Affect it? Yes. But not to that scale.

The danger of social media is that we both under estimate and over estimate its effectiveness

It operates in its own exaggerated vacuum