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Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

Tony the Tigger

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Side note: I put Mufasa on D+, predicting it would be background fodder as I prepped for our first trip to Costa Rica this Sunday, wondering if it would even play all the way through (as I had seen it in theaters in early January.)

I ended up sitting down and watching all the way through (to the detriment of my laundry.)

It will be interesting to see the streaming numbers since Moana 2 is still relatively fresh to the platform.
 

LittleBuford

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Side note: I put Mufasa on D+, predicting it would be background fodder as I prepped for our first trip to Costa Rica this Sunday, wondering if it would even play all the way through (as I had seen it in theaters in early January.)

I ended up sitting down and watching all the way through (to the detriment of my laundry.)

It will be interesting to see the streaming numbers since Moana 2 is still relatively fresh to the platform.
I preferred Snow White to Mufasa, including the music. “I Always Wanted a Brother” has to be one of the most irritating songs ever composed!
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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This got me thinking. If, as has been claimed, Zegler’s comments are keeping half the country away, why is the other half not showing up either?
Not sure if this was already shared and I missed it but it was from a couple days ago, blue counties typically represent 67% of total movie ticket sales but only 60% of Snow Whites ticket sales, which ironically means it’s overperforming in red counties and underperforming in blue counties. 🤷

 

LittleBuford

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Not sure if this was already shared and I missed it but it was from a couple days ago, blue counties typically represent 67% of total movie ticket sales but only 60% of Snow Whites ticket sales, which ironically means it’s overperforming in red counties and underperforming in blue counties. 🤷

That doesn’t surprise me at all and only bears out how needlessly political people have made this.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
According to many here, including and especially the poster you’ve declared our resident expert, @TP2000, a very large number of people cared deeply about Zegler’s statements. I tend to share your scepticism in this regard.
Enough to tank a movie to this level worldwide?

…that’s a bridge too far.

It just was an unwanted movie…and that is the mistake by Disney. They can’t label and sell whatever they want in this environment. Simply do better
 

Tony the Tigger

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In all the conversations about Rachel I must have missed this. What did gadot do?
Don’t think it can be discussed here, but a quick google should help.
That seems really, really unlikely to me. The idea that cinema-goers on the left or the right care about either actress to the extent that’s being suggested here just doesn’t ring true.
As someone who spends more time on sites like FB and Instagram, I’ll tell you what I tell the folks who doubt racism: the proof is in the posting. Every Disney post about this film has about 20-35% support and positive reviews, about 10-15% general “woke Disney” comments, about 35-40% anti-Rachel comments for all the different reasons, and about 15-20% anti-Gadot comments (not including the ones about her acting) which have ramped up since the film was released and she received her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Side note: I put Mufasa on D+, predicting it would be background fodder as I prepped for our first trip to Costa Rica this Sunday, wondering if it would even play all the way through (as I had seen it in theaters in early January.)

I ended up sitting down and watching all the way through (to the detriment of my laundry.)

It will be interesting to see the streaming numbers since Moana 2 is still relatively fresh to the platform.
I didn’t even realize Mufasa was on D+ already, I’ll have to go check it out.

It pains me to say this since Moana is one of my all time favorite Disney movies but I haven’t even finished Moana 2 yet, I’ve tried several times over the last couple weeks but I just can’t get into it, it kind of gives me 90s straight to video vibes.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Don’t think it can be discussed here, but a quick google should help.

As someone who spends more time on sites like FB and Instagram, I’ll tell you what I tell the folks who doubt racism: the proof is in the posting. Every Disney post about this film has about 20-35% support and positive reviews, about 10-15% general “woke Disney” comments, about 35-40% anti-Rachel comments for all the different reasons, and about 15-20% anti-Gadot comments (not including the ones about her acting) which have ramped up since the film was released and she received her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Social media comments are not what woujd sink a huge release movie. It would not keep grandmas from taking their kiddies…

Affect it? Yes. But not to that scale.

The danger of social media is that we both under estimate and over estimate its effectiveness

It operates in its own exaggerated vacuum
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Maybe there’s a typo here, but she’s Jewish too—as most Israelis are. And if you mean she’s not religious (I don’t know one way or the other), one doesn’t have to be in order to be Jewish—it’s an ethnicity as well as a religion.

You missed it.

The state of Israeli is not a religious cult. It’s a modern, controversial second tier power that operates on a zealot like agenda that focuses on self preservation…with very good reason.

But those two groups are very different. My neighbor is Jewish…she’s not Israeli. With mandatory unisex military service and universal political engagement.
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
So it defangs “the hate network” myth for this one
Not really. It’s true that a great deal of over-the-top outrage has been whipped up around Zegler—witness this very forum—and it was already at boiling point long before her political statements. That didn’t just happen organically; whether you call it a hate network or not, certain influential voices generated and fed the frenzy.

It can also be true—as I believe it is—that all this over-the-top outrage is not an especially significant factor in the film’s failure.
 

Tony the Tigger

Well-Known Member
I didn’t even realize Mufasa was on D+ already, I’ll have to go check it out.

It pains me to say this since Moana is one of my all time favorite Disney movies but I haven’t even finished Moana 2 yet, I’ve tried several times over the last couple weeks but I just can’t get into it, it kind of gives me 90s straight to video vibes.
I haven’t even seen the first Moana yet.

After enjoying her Epcot attraction, I thought we might get around to it, but we are so behind on our TV watching that we just watched the Halloween and Christmas episodes of “Elsbeth” in the last week or so. My DVR runneth over!

Mufasa just joined the lineup in the last few days.

I saw the first lion king in the late 90’s, but had no great attachment, and didn’t bother with the live action. I may watch just for the sake of continuity since there will presumably be another.

The “renaissance” took place when I was a teenager-early 20’s and “too grown up.”
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
Don’t think it can be discussed here, but a quick google should help.

As someone who spends more time on sites like FB and Instagram, I’ll tell you what I tell the folks who doubt racism: the proof is in the posting. Every Disney post about this film has about 20-35% support and positive reviews, about 10-15% general “woke Disney” comments, about 35-40% anti-Rachel comments for all the different reasons, and about 15-20% anti-Gadot comments (not including the ones about her acting) which have ramped up since the film was released and she received her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
I don’t take online posts (including whatever we say here) to be representative of what ordinary people out there in the real world think. Most people I know have no idea about any of these supposed controversies.
 

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