Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Tha Realest]

Saw a Deadline article listing Snow Whites cost at $270 MILLION.

Yeesh.

This is where the UK tax credit specialists and D+ shell game spinners start telling us this movie really only needs to make $350M at the WW box office to break even.

 

[Tha Realest]

Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast cost less and looked so much better.

They only filmed those movies once and didn’t spend two years in postproduction tinkering.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

The sarcasm isn’t directed at Hollywood, it’s directed at the idiots relentlessly attacking the film. She explicitly refers to the attacks as “a dispiritingly familiar spectacle of bigotry and rank nonsense.”

How about they shut up about the idiots and talk about the damned film?

You know why, as you do it here. They're more interested in crying and whining about things instead of the movie itself.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

Saw this-

"Snow White doesn’t include one of the animated original’s most famous songs, “Someday My Prince Will Come,”"

SERIOUSLY?

Did they put Kathleen Kennedy in charge of this film?

 

[Casper Gutman]

How about they shut up about the idiots and talk about the damned film?

You know why, as you do it here. They're more interested in crying and whining about things instead of the movie itself.

You initially welcomed the comments when you misunderstood them and thought they were directed against people you didn’t like.

 

[erasure fan1]

Random Late Nite Hot Take: The Supremes have perhaps the best cover ever recorded of "Somewhere There's A Place For Us". Look it up if you're a West Side Story fan!

I've gotta say, the pet shop boys cover is the one for me. Of course I'm partial to all those electronic 80's bands. So I might just be a bit biased.

 

[Casper Gutman]

How about they shut up about the idiots and talk about the damned film?

You know why, as you do it here. They're more interested in crying and whining about things instead of the movie itself.

To add - there has certainly been a group “crying and whining” about this meaningless film. They’ve been doing it for months and months, as loudly as they could.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

Did they put Kathleen Kennedy in charge of this film?

Yeah, this is a major mistep... drop the signature song from the film?

 

[BrianLo]

This is where the UK tax credit specialists and D+ shell game spinners start telling us this movie really only needs to make $350M at the WW box office to break even.

No, it needs 675M. I'd generally believe roughly that figure now unless Anthony (Deadline) also weighs in with a modified break even point. Which he is apt to do.

And look at that, Deadline, who I trust, has the highest figure of all so far!

The imposition that we (the shell gamers) are the ones flip flopping in the breeze is insulting. I've been nothing but consistent. Walter swinging in and making absurd statements that he "thinks" we've made is not consistent with the drum I've been beating for 10 years now.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

You initially welcomed the comments when you misunderstood them and thought they were directed against people you didn’t like.

I didnt welcome

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

The initial attacks on Zegler were based on her race. Obscure comments she had made to the foreign press were dug up and amplified because of her race.

I don’t think you’re naive.

Give up with your endless racism.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

So to you, this is all about her race and that people don't like her because of it? The way I see it is, yea it started with casting. But it sounds like you think if you didn't like the casting, it's because of a hidden, or not so hidden, agenda. We all know there's people on the Internet who do have that agenda, that's not new. But is that controlling the general public in your mind? Maybe it sways it some, I don't think so, but I don't really know. Call me naive, but most of the average people that don't like her, don't like her for the things she said. Not the color of her skin.

I think it’s also worth pointing out there’s a difference between not liking a casting decision and not liking that person personally.

I hated the decision to cast Bailey as TLM but I don’t have any hard feelings towards her, if she was cast in a new movie tomorrow I’d have no reservations seeing it. I can’t say the same for Zegler, there’s actual animosity there, and thats not from the casting choice but because of her comments and attitude.

The initial controversy was surrounding the casting choice and towards Disney, it was her comments that turned that animosity towards herself though.

 

[BrianLo]

Since Snow is in the exact same production wheelhouse - here's our massive bomb range comp.

Cheer for it as you will. It doesn't seem destined for a 200M+ loss, but you never know.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Since Snow is in the exact same production wheelhouse - here's our massive bomb range comp.

Cheer for it as you will. It doesn't seem destined for a 200M+ loss, but you never know.

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Where do you find this breakdown, interesting how it breaks it down to theatrical, video, and steaming revenue. I’ve never seen such a detailed breakdown.

 

[BrianLo]

Where do you find this breakdown, interesting how it breaks it down to theatrical, video, and steaming revenue. I’ve never seen such a detailed breakdown.

Deadline. It's why I'm sort of a fan.

Disney Detonates Four Bombs In Deadline’s 2023 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament

Disney's The Marvels, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, Haunted Mansion and Wish, and DC's The Flash were big movies that lost out on profits.

deadline.com

But we only get P&L sheets in the subsequent spring on the big winners or losers. We'll get the P&L for sure of Moana 2, IO2, Wolverine+Deadpool and I think very strongly Mufasa cracked the top ten. We'll talk about those here for sure in a month or two!

 

[Chi84]

Yeah, it’s a family movie based on an animated film generally made for kids. Giving props because the heroine isn’t defined by her relationship or proximity to a man but bemoaning it doesn’t go far enough because it still embraces “heteronormativity” makes this entire thing really tedious. If that’s an organic choice made by the character within the contours of the film, why is “heteronormativity” frames as a negative thing?

Activists are bringing a lot of baggage to this one. “It didn't go far enough!” Hey, good news, many more turkeys like this and there won’t be any Princess films, heteronormative or otherwise

In all fairness that was a particularly weird review. I’ve read several reviews and none of the others were anything like that.

 

[MagicMouseFan]

This can’t be great news for Hollywood. Apple has some great shows.

 

[erasure fan1]

I think it’s also worth pointing out there’s a difference between not liking a casting decision and not liking that person personally.

I hated the decision to cast Bailey as TLM but I don’t have any hard feelings towards her, if she was cast in a new movie tomorrow I’d have no reservations seeing it. I can’t say the same for Zegler, there’s actual animosity there, and thats not from the casting choice but because of her comments and attitude.

The initial controversy was surrounding the casting choice and towards Disney, it was her comments that turned that animosity towards herself though.

Exactly, and that's what I'm saying. Just because you don't like the casting, doesn't make you some racist. That's ridiculous. A lot pf people share your opinion on mermaid and now snow white. Only someone wanting a controversy would think your opinion is hate motivated. But here we are. Trust me, there are people out there that are hate motivated in that way. But I don't see it in you or a lot of other posters here.

 

[Chi84]

Exactly, and that's what I'm saying. Just because you don't like the casting, doesn't make you some racist. That's ridiculous. A lot pf people share your opinion on mermaid and now snow white. Only someone wanting a controversy would think your opinion is hate motivated. But here we are. Trust me, there are people out there that are hate motivated in that way. But I don't see it in you or a lot of other posters here.

There are so many posts in this thread. Were you unhappy with the casting when Rachel Zegler was first announced? Did you see her in something else and think she wasn’t right for the part?

 

[MagicMouseFan]

Exactly, and that's what I'm saying. Just because you don't like the casting, doesn't make you some racist. That's ridiculous. A lot pf people share your opinion on mermaid and now snow white. Only someone wanting a controversy would think your opinion is hate motivated. But here we are. Trust me, there are people out there that are hate motivated in that way. But I don't see it in you or a lot of other posters here.

I was banned to the corn field because I believed (and still do) that one casting was gimmicky and I was called a racist.
It was unbelievable.