Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Disstevefan1]

I am just hoping Cap breaks even or makes some money at the box office.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Then don’t ask the question.

The point was supposed to have been a softball question to @Vegas Disney Fan to establish that some things obviously should be updated when updating a film nearly a century old. This is routine in doing remakes. So why would you recreate a princess who is completely subservient to and at the whim of every man in the world - in 2025?

That was never my takeaway from Snow White. I think it's interesting how different people can watch the same movie and have totally different interpretations of it. And now all this conversation has me itching to watch Snow White again. Sorry, Chi84!

 

[Chi84]

That was never my takeaway from Snow White. I think it's interesting how different people can watch the same movie and have totally different interpretations of it. And now all this conversation has me itching to watch Snow White again. Sorry, Chi84!

No, I’m sorry.

 

[Disney Analyst]

This is a great discussion… but as more and more trailers are coming, and the movie draws near… maybe we could have the Snow White thread back?? @The Mom

So that this thread doesn’t veer so off course.

 

[TP2000]

Rachel speaks.

Rachel Zegler Addresses Backlash Over Snow White Remake

Rachel Zegler explained why she believes she received backlash for her role of Snow White in the upcoming Disney live-action remake.

www.eonline.com

Ohhhh! In this telling of the events of 2022-24, Miss Zegler is actually the victim of her own words and statements!

She's the victim of her own words, her own decisions, her own statements. And also... racism. That should shut 'em up.

 

[Farerb]

Maybe one of the Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs haters around here can explain to me what was so problematic about the song "With a Smile and a Song" that they decided to drop it from the remake?

 

[LittleBuford]

Maybe one of the Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs haters around here can explain to me what was so problematic about the song "With a Smile and a Song" that they decided to drop it from the remake?

Why assume that's the reason they dropped it? I really hate the way everything has to be framed in such loaded terms. Not every decision is underpinned by some nefarious agenda.

 

[BrianLo]

Maybe one of the Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs haters around here can explain to me what was so problematic about the song "With a Smile and a Song" that they decided to drop it from the remake?

No one is a hater. In fact I think we almost unilaterally would rather stop the remakes. Especially for films that are so iconically embedded they aren’t willing to change enough.

If they are going to remake it, at least don’t make it a shot for shot remake.

My theory on why? You asked, I didn’t even know the song you were talking about off the top of my head. I googled, saw the still, recognized the sequence, saw the lyrics and still couldn’t reproduce it until I played the video. It’s exceptionally underutilized considering how embedded I am in Disney product. It’s also fairly simple, boring and the characterizations of a sobbing child on a forest floor who was booted from the nest is not how they are taking this one.

Yes, it’s going to be a different movie and probably not even different enough. It’s probably just cut because it’s boring and non-iconic.

 

[LittleBuford]

No one is a hater. In fact I think we almost unilaterally would rather stop the remakes. Especially for films that are so iconically embedded they aren’t willing to change enough.

If they are going to remake it, at least don’t make it a shot for shot remake.

My theory on why? You asked, I didn’t even know the song you were talking about off the top of my head. I googled, saw the still, recognized the sequence, saw the lyrics and still couldn’t reproduce it until I played the video. It’s exceptionally underutilized considering how embedded I am in Disney product. It’s also fairly simple, boring and the characterizations of a sobbing child on a forest floor who was booted from the nest is not how they are taking this one.

Yes, it’s going to be a different movie and probably not even different enough. It’s probably just cut because it’s boring and non-iconic.

It's one of my favourite Disney songs, but I can see why it wouldn't fit the tone or narrative of the remake, so it doesn't surprise me in the least that they've dropped it.

 

[BrianLo]

It's one of my favourite Disney songs, but I can see why it wouldn't fit the tone or narrative of the remake, so it doesn't surprise me in the least that they've dropped it.

Now it’s just stuck in my head.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Maybe one of the Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs haters around here can explain to me what was so problematic about the song "With a Smile and a Song" that they decided to drop it from the remake?

Who cares? Maybe they just didn’t have enough room because they wanted a new song?

Why is everything taken as a personal slight?

 

[Dranth]

I don't need to. I watched the film and her age is never mentioned, nor was it ever mentioned by anyone who worked on the film.

Her supposedly being 14 was a myth perpetuated online to tear down the character even further. There are so many pop culture articles out there claiming she's 14 without any evidence or credible sources.

The movie is based in a time when young teenage women were married off regularly. Further, it was made by people who lived through the age of consent in the US being shifted upward. For example, when Walt was born the national average was 14. By the time production started, the average had shifted upward to 16.

Maybe they meant for her to be older (18+) but based on when it is set, roughly 16th century Germany, and when it was made, it isn't farfetched to think she was younger than most of us would assume using today’s sensibilities.

 

[Tha Realest]

Ohhhh! In this telling of the events of 2022-24, Miss Zegler is actually the victim of her own words and statements!

She's the victim of her own words, her own decisions, her own statements. And also... racism. That should shut 'em up.

Usually studios will leak a star’s next project when they are out promoting their newest film. Should be any week now when we hear her follow up to Y2K and Romeo + Juliet (there was a rumor a few weeks back about a D+ Phantom of the Opera series, so we’ll see if we get any confirmation or movement on that)

 

[brideck]

Maybe they meant for her to be older (18+) but based on when it is set, roughly 16th century Germany, and when it was made, it isn't farfetched to think she was younger than most of us would assume using today’s sensibilities.

I would doubt that they meant for her to be older. Marge Champion (their character model) was only 14 or 15 when they were working on it in earnest.

 

[Agent H]

Usually studios will leak a star’s next project when they are out promoting their newest film. Should be any week now when we hear her follow up to Y2K and Romeo + Juliet (there was a rumor a few weeks back about a D+ Phantom of the Opera series, so we’ll see if we get any confirmation or movement on that)

A phantom of the opera show sounds really cool.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

No one is a hater. In fact I think we almost unilaterally would rather stop the remakes. Especially for films that are so iconically embedded they aren’t willing to change enough.

If they are going to remake it, at least don’t make it a shot for shot remake.

For what it is worth, I don't have any issue with the remakes ... but only if they are "live action" shot for shot remakes. I want the cartoon films, but with live humans. If you want to slightly change something problematic (Snow White is now 18 years old), or add one additional song to sell the soundtrack, fine. But otherwise, the beauty of the remakes is not changing anything, imho.

 

[Agent H]

For what it is worth, I don't have any issue with the remakes ... but only if they are "live action" shot for shot remakes. I want the cartoon films, but with live humans. If you want to slightly change something problematic (Snow White is now 18 years old), or add one additional song to sell the soundtrack, fine. But otherwise, the beauty of the remakes is not changing anything, imho.

Hard disagree. I want the opposite. what’s the point of making it if it’s exactly the same?

 

[Disstevefan1]

I wish Disney could think of new stories to tell.

I imagine there are many, many story ideas they have on the shelf in the 100 plus years.

 

[Agent H]

I wish Disney could think of new stories to tell.

I imagine there are many, many story ideas they have on the shelf in the 100 plus years.

I wish Disney live action would look at going back to the movie based on S.E.A.

 

[Disney Irish]

I wish Disney could think of new stories to tell.

I imagine there are many, many story ideas they have on the shelf in the 100 plus years.

They have a new original story coming out in June, we'll see how that goes.