DAK 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

gerarar

gerarar

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New excavator and construction equipment on site now.
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BrianLo

BrianLo

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Casper Gutman said:
I think (and hope) Indy happens, but with cuts. Muppets closes. RnRC closes. Disney drags its feet on Monstersland and RnRC replacement, both opening with big cuts (particularly to Muppets replacement) much later then expected.

I have no idea what happens in MK.
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I missed this conversation, but allow me to make some devils advocate counterpoints.

This is not the first time we’ve done this. Tron would have been the perfect project to mothball on the very similar March 2018 rollout. It was unaffected, the build was actually quite rapid during that window.

Second, this is ‘a’ material. It’s not the project cost. It also won’t even manifest as a full 25% hike on steel as there is some internal blending with internal supplies.

Even if all those things were true, I really don’t see how attraction overlay projects are that exposed. Particularly Indy, the Muppets show replacement and RnRC.

If we go full hog on not just steel… well then Disney still has the option to rotate out of the domestic market where costs are lower. More cruise ships you say?
 
mattpeto

mattpeto

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BrianLo said:
I missed this conversation, but allow me to make some devils advocate counterpoints.

This is not the first time we’ve done this. Tron would have been the perfect project to mothball on the very similar March 2018 rollout. It was unaffected, the build was actually quite rapid during that window.

Second, this is ‘a’ material. It’s not the project cost. It also won’t even manifest as a full 25% hike on steel as there is some internal blending with internal supplies.

Even if all those things were true, I really don’t see how attraction overlay projects are that exposed. Particularly Indy, the Muppets show replacement and RnRC.

If we go full hog on not just steel… well then Disney still has the option to rotate out of the domestic market where costs are lower. More cruise ships you say?
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I like @Casper Gutman and his posts, but I'm starting to bookmark "nothing is going to be built" so I can bring it up in a few years. Either I or him will eat massive crow here.

I also don't want to hear any goalposts moving when lands don't match the concept art. We all know that some elements won't make the final product.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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mattpeto said:
I like @Casper Gutman and his posts, but I'm starting to bookmark "nothing is going to be built" so I can bring it up in a few years. Either I or him will eat massive crow here.

I also don't want to hear any goalposts moving when lands don't match the concept art. We all know that some elements won't make the final product.
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I’ll eat crow that I still think Villains is clearly a 2029 project… which I believe is even faster than you and Jason were betting.

Of course there are always world events, but this executive leadership has not yet walked back announced projects… which even includes weird things like the Bugs life replacement that I very much believe Chapek would have announced and subsequently buried in his role.
 
Agent H

Agent H

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mattpeto said:
I like @Casper Gutman and his posts, but I'm starting to bookmark "nothing is going to be built" so I can bring it up in a few years. Either I or him will eat massive crow here.

I also don't want to hear any goalposts moving when lands don't match the concept art. We all know that some elements won't make the final product.
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Look I like your posts and I generally agree with you on most things so please don’t take this personally but when did he ever say nothing will be built? He’s just mentioning the possibility that there are budget cuts I hope he’s wrong and the current situation all blows over within a couple months but seems like he’s just speculating to me
 
mattpeto

mattpeto

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Agent H said:
Look I like your posts and I generally agree with you on most things so please don’t take this personally but when did he ever say nothing will be built? He’s just mentioning the possibility that there are budget cuts I hope he’s wrong and the current situation all blows over within a couple months but seems like he’s just speculating to me
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Thanks, I enjoy your posts as well. (and many of Casper's posts too)

If you review his posts he admits that things might be built, but with cuts everywhere. He's definitely on record that Villains Land won't be built. He also thinks that MV3D is being shuttered because of operational costs. There's plenty here that believe that as well.

The fact he's bringing up macro points (tariff's) to support his perspective, makes me think he's rooting for it. If another pandemic happens or we get involved with a World War (God forbid), I could see most of the projects going away too. Macro elements doesn't really make me him right or wrong here IMO.
 
Agent H

Agent H

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mattpeto said:
Thanks, I enjoy your posts as well. (and many of Casper's posts too)

If you review his posts he admits that things might be built, but with cuts everywhere. He's definitely on record that Villains Land won't be built. He also thinks that MV3D is being shuttered because of operational costs. There's plenty here that believe that as well.

The fact he's bringing up macro points (tariff's) to support his perspective, makes me think he's rooting for it. If another pandemic happens or we get involved with a World War (God forbid), I could see most of the projects going away too. Macro elements doesn't really make me him right or wrong here IMO.
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again I don’t think it’s wrong to think that there could be budget cuts I don’t think muppet vision 3d is closing because of of operational costs thank you for responding
 
The Leader of the Club

The Leader of the Club

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Agent H said:
again I don’t think it’s wrong to think that there could be budget cuts I don’t think muppet vision 3d is closing because of of operational costs thank you for responding
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I think if Muppets was closing early because of operational costs, we’d see more things close. They gave Dinosaur another year when it almost certainly requires more money to run than Muppets.

They’re also closing Mama Melrose & PizzeRizzo. I figure both of those generate revenue, even if they aren’t the most popular restaurants in the park. Heck, Melrose is even closing EARLIER than MuppetVision. I’m not convinced that it’s a budgetary decision.
 

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