I guess we would have to define our term borrowed time.
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DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios
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Cmdr_Crimson
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Soooo....Would Disney even think of going for it or is this going to just get moved to Apple + like The Fraggles?
HMF
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Would this make Sesame Place a Disney Park? I would finally have a Disney Park within driving distance of my house.
Cmdr_Crimson
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Disney potentially getting the streaming rights to Sesame Street and starting to incorporate them into their brand and potentially parks right after the possibility of turning Grand Avenue into “muppets and Sesame Street shared land” would be a very cruel joke by the theme park gods.
lazyboy97o
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Sesame Workshop (formerly, Children's Workshop) owns Sesame Street the TV series.
Max got a deal with them to hold most of the TV series' library and to be the first window of new SS content.
By default, I guess, PBS would revert back as the first window of new episodes, altho, some other station/streamer could offer to buy the right to be the first window for new episodes.
Owning this first window does not give a company any theme park rights.
The Sesame Street license for theme parks is held by other companies.
United Parks & Resorts (formerly SeaWorld Entertainment) owns the license to run Sesame Place.
Disney would have to buy UP&R or Sesame Workshop to own Sesame-Street-themed parks. Buying Max's 'first window' won't do that for them.
Max got a deal with them to hold most of the TV series' library and to be the first window of new SS content.
By default, I guess, PBS would revert back as the first window of new episodes, altho, some other station/streamer could offer to buy the right to be the first window for new episodes.
Owning this first window does not give a company any theme park rights.
The Sesame Street license for theme parks is held by other companies.
United Parks & Resorts (formerly SeaWorld Entertainment) owns the license to run Sesame Place.
Disney would have to buy UP&R or Sesame Workshop to own Sesame-Street-themed parks. Buying Max's 'first window' won't do that for them.
Disney streaming has that demographic locked down with Bluey.
lazyboy97o
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Sesame Place is not just an operating license, it is owned by United Parks. They’d still own the park in Pennsylvania and the water park in California if they ever lost the license.
lazyboy97o
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Sesame Street never left PBS.
Sesame Street | PBS KIDS
Play games and watch videos with characters from Sesame Street.
pbskids.org
coffeefan
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It is on PBS on a second run IIRC. Also, PBS will likely not exist by 2028.
Yes. Sadly the deal was they could air an episode one year after HBO Max did. It killed a lot of the style of the show that shifted. Very different format vs the way the segment and human interaction was for decades.
As far as PBS not existing. People have been saying that for a long time.
I meant the exclusive first air rights. I said back, not that they lost it all.Sesame Street never left PBS.
Sesame Street | PBS KIDS
Play games and watch videos with characters from Sesame Street.
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danlb_2000
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Since the entire park is based on this single IP I would assume the licensing deal is written in such a way that it would be hard to break.
Casper Gutman
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Nothing will happen in Animation Courtyard for close to a decade at the very soonest.
Muppets destruction is only inevitable because Disney World is badly run.
Monsters is part of the first five years of a ten year plan. I can understand being skeptical, but you seem to be purely pessimistic.
GoofGoof
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So reading between the lines and jumping to conclusions it sounds like Disney buys rights to Sesame Street, takes over Sesame Place and then moves MV3D to the park in PA. I then become the creepy middle aged guy with no young kids who has a season pass to Sesame Place 
I personally would prioritize a new land in AK to expand capacity there but AC would be plan 1b for me with EPCOT a close 3rd (WoL, imagination redo, new country, etc…).
Getting back on topic….it could be a little sooner. If we assume that Villians land opens somewhere around 2030 or 2031 then the “next thing” to open could be whatever goes to AC. There is no guarantee they plan it to open the very next year but if they plan to spend the money they announced and spend it in a decade it would have to open sooner than a decade from now (the decade would end in 2034). If you add up all of the spend announced for all the parks and cruise ships there’s still plenty left over for more stuff before 2034. Also no guarantee it goes to WDW but they will likely get some allocation of funds.
I personally would prioritize a new land in AK to expand capacity there but AC would be plan 1b for me with EPCOT a close 3rd (WoL, imagination redo, new country, etc…).
GoofGoof
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Casper doesn’t believe all of the announced stuff for the first 5 years will happen let alone anything unannounced in the second half. I can‘t definitely say he’s wrong. A lot can happen in 5 or 10 years but IMHO that goes without saying. I think we all acknowledge there’s always a chance of a major macro-economic setback or issue with TWDC directly that could derail plans but it isn’t necessary to say that repeatedly during a discussion. It’s always a possibilty.