I meant the exclusive first air rights. I said back, not that they lost it all.
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News Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios
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danlb_2000
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Since the entire park is based on this single IP I would assume the licensing deal is written in such a way that it would be hard to break.
Casper Gutman
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Nothing will happen in Animation Courtyard for close to a decade at the very soonest.
Muppets destruction is only inevitable because Disney World is badly run.
Monsters is part of the first five years of a ten year plan. I can understand being skeptical, but you seem to be purely pessimistic.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
So reading between the lines and jumping to conclusions it sounds like Disney buys rights to Sesame Street, takes over Sesame Place and then moves MV3D to the park in PA. I then become the creepy middle aged guy with no young kids who has a season pass to Sesame Place 
I personally would prioritize a new land in AK to expand capacity there but AC would be plan 1b for me with EPCOT a close 3rd (WoL, imagination redo, new country, etc…).
Getting back on topic….it could be a little sooner. If we assume that Villians land opens somewhere around 2030 or 2031 then the “next thing” to open could be whatever goes to AC. There is no guarantee they plan it to open the very next year but if they plan to spend the money they announced and spend it in a decade it would have to open sooner than a decade from now (the decade would end in 2034). If you add up all of the spend announced for all the parks and cruise ships there’s still plenty left over for more stuff before 2034. Also no guarantee it goes to WDW but they will likely get some allocation of funds.
I personally would prioritize a new land in AK to expand capacity there but AC would be plan 1b for me with EPCOT a close 3rd (WoL, imagination redo, new country, etc…).
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Casper doesn’t believe all of the announced stuff for the first 5 years will happen let alone anything unannounced in the second half. I can‘t definitely say he’s wrong. A lot can happen in 5 or 10 years but IMHO that goes without saying. I think we all acknowledge there’s always a chance of a major macro-economic setback or issue with TWDC directly that could derail plans but it isn’t necessary to say that repeatedly during a discussion. It’s always a possibilty.
It is weird though. Do we really believe they're saving that spot for Avenger's Campus East? That would require moving mountains (agreement with Universal). It seems so bizarre to earmark that spot for something when there's no guarantee it will ever happen.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
I don’t think it’s very likely for Avengers. The 2 possibilities I’ve heard the most are Zootopia and Springfield. Universal is not likely to give up the Marvel rights but the Simpsons rights do expire so if a part of UnI moves down the street that one is much more likely. There‘s already a Zootopia land in Shanghai that would fit in AC location.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
I’ll be over at SWL eating at the sit-down restaurant, interacting with all the roaming droids, and enjoying the deep, intricate RPG linked to my Magic Band.
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
Something I forgot to mention for @Casper Gutman is that there is still the developmental agreement with Florida, which provides mild guide rails for the next CEO. In and of itself it doesn’t guarantee these projects, but the announced slate is still not even 8B worth of work. So some sort of shades of this plus more has to be done by 2034.
I’d estimate we only have about 5-6B of capital expenditures announced on the very generous end.
Be careful, you don't want to miss there being too long a line for Baby Herman's on Sunset Blvd before hopping over to Main Street USA for an indoor theatrical performance.
lazyboy97o
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The ten year plan is just a spending expectation. That’s it. There is no actual design plan that just hasn’t been announced yet. It’s also not a plan specific to Disney’s Hollywood Studios.
Nor is there an obligation.
And even if there was, a decade of inflation does a lot to billions.
Zero direct connection to anything g like Animation Courtyard at this point.
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BrianLo
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There is an obligation over 20 years. Inflation probably puts us in a position where it’s better than Bob’s first decade, but worse than his second.
Only carrying through in a tighter ten year cycle will actually yield a bigger post inflationary investment cycle than 2014-2023. By about 150% or so.
Ha. Not better than the time period that solidified the stagnant neglect.
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
No, that was largely Bob’s first decade coming off of erratic choices from Eisner’s.
Last decade did not solidify neglect, perhaps insufficiently dug them out of it?
There was some serious infrastructure, Disney springs, transit, refurbs of all the parks entries parking and spines. Including a good amount of generous attraction spend, whether you liked the product or not. The resort is not as neglected as it was feeling in 2014. Do not confuse me with giving them a good star that aspects of WDW are still below standards. But it was significantly worse, it also used to be significantly better before Eisners downturn.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
100% agreed. That’s why we are talking about pie in the sky concepts of what may go to AC and not concrete plans. For all of us we see a stagnant area of the park ripe for improvement but there’s no guarantee it happens and as you said no guarantee anything goes to DHS at all. We also all assume that if DHS gets an allocation of funds it will be spent on a project in this area but they could opt for echo lake instead. Indy has costs to operate and Star Tours could be rethemed. Seems foolish to go that direction since the park needs more capacity but they’ve done foolish things before.
Rich Brownn
Well-Known Member
It'll be interesting to see how well the animatronics in Epic will be (There's 14 in the Monsters ride and at least 2 in Potter).
SpectreJordan
Well-Known Member
The Monsters animatronics look amazing. I'm happy there's a decent amount in that ride, but it's still a far cry from how many are in something like Pirates. But the thrill aspect of that ride should make that less noticeable at least.