DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

[GoofGoof]

Monsters is part of the first five years of a ten year plan. I can understand being skeptical, but you seem to be purely pessimistic.

Casper doesn’t believe all of the announced stuff for the first 5 years will happen let alone anything unannounced in the second half. I can‘t definitely say he’s wrong. A lot can happen in 5 or 10 years but IMHO that goes without saying. I think we all acknowledge there’s always a chance of a major macro-economic setback or issue with TWDC directly that could derail plans but it isn’t necessary to say that repeatedly during a discussion. It’s always a possibilty.

 

[akileese]

Casper doesn’t believe all of the announced stuff for the first 5 years will happen let alone anything unannounced in the second half. I can‘t definitely say he’s wrong. A lot can happen in 5 or 10 years but IMHO that goes without saying. I think we all acknowledge there’s always a chance of a major macro-economic setback or issue with TWDC directly that could derail plans but it isn’t necessary to say that repeatedly during a discussion. It’s always a possibilty.

It is weird though. Do we really believe they're saving that spot for Avenger's Campus East? That would require moving mountains (agreement with Universal). It seems so bizarre to earmark that spot for something when there's no guarantee it will ever happen.

 

[GoofGoof]

It is weird though. Do we really believe they're saving that spot for Avenger's Campus East? That would require moving mountains (agreement with Universal). It seems so bizarre to earmark that spot for something when there's no guarantee it will ever happen.

I don’t think it’s very likely for Avengers. The 2 possibilities I’ve heard the most are Zootopia and Springfield. Universal is not likely to give up the Marvel rights but the Simpsons rights do expire so if a part of UnI moves down the street that one is much more likely. There‘s already a Zootopia land in Shanghai that would fit in AC location.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Monsters is part of the first five years of a ten year plan. I can understand being skeptical, but you seem to be purely pessimistic.

I’ll be over at SWL eating at the sit-down restaurant, interacting with all the roaming droids, and enjoying the deep, intricate RPG linked to my Magic Band.

 

[BrianLo]

Casper doesn’t believe all of the announced stuff for the first 5 years will happen let alone anything unannounced in the second half. I can‘t definitely say he’s wrong. A lot can happen in 5 or 10 years but IMHO that goes without saying. I think we all acknowledge there’s always a chance of a major macro-economic setback or issue with TWDC directly that could derail plans but it isn’t necessary to say that repeatedly during a discussion. It’s always a possibilty.

Something I forgot to mention for @Casper Gutman is that there is still the developmental agreement with Florida, which provides mild guide rails for the next CEO. In and of itself it doesn’t guarantee these projects, but the announced slate is still not even 8B worth of work. So some sort of shades of this plus more has to be done by 2034.

I’d estimate we only have about 5-6B of capital expenditures announced on the very generous end.

 

[celluloid]

I’ll be over at SWL eating at the sit-down restaurant, interacting with all the roaming droids, and enjoying the deep, intricate RPG linked to my Magic Band.

Be careful, you don't want to miss there being too long a line for Baby Herman's on Sunset Blvd before hopping over to Main Street USA for an indoor theatrical performance.

 

[celluloid]

Imagine the best defense of a top theme park resort not being badly run is:
Don't worry, something will go in the ugly, stagnant, neglected land area in about ten years.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Monsters is part of the first five years of a ten year plan. I can understand being skeptical, but you seem to be purely pessimistic.

The ten year plan is just a spending expectation. That’s it. There is no actual design plan that just hasn’t been announced yet. It’s also not a plan specific to Disney’s Hollywood Studios.

 

[celluloid]

The ten year plan is just a spending expectation. That’s it. There is no actual design plan that just hasn’t been announced yet. It’s also not a plan specific to Disney’s Hollywood Studios.

Nor is there an obligation.

And even if there was, a decade of inflation does a lot to billions.

Zero direct connection to anything g like Animation Courtyard at this point.

 

[BrianLo]

Nor is there an obligation.

There is an obligation over 20 years. Inflation probably puts us in a position where it’s better than Bob’s first decade, but worse than his second.

Only carrying through in a tighter ten year cycle will actually yield a bigger post inflationary investment cycle than 2014-2023. By about 150% or so.

 

[celluloid]

There is an obligation over 20 years. Inflation probably puts us in a position where it’s better than Bob’s first decade, but worse than his second.

Ha. Not better than the time period that solidified the stagnant neglect.

 

[BrianLo]

Ha. Not better than the time period that solidified the stagnant neglect.

No, that was largely Bob’s first decade coming off of erratic choices from Eisner’s.

Last decade did not solidify neglect, perhaps insufficiently dug them out of it?

There was some serious infrastructure, Disney springs, transit, refurbs of all the parks entries parking and spines. Including a good amount of generous attraction spend, whether you liked the product or not. The resort is not as neglected as it was feeling in 2014. Do not confuse me with giving them a good star that aspects of WDW are still below standards. But it was significantly worse, it also used to be significantly better before Eisners downturn.

 

[GoofGoof]

The ten year plan is just a spending expectation. That’s it. There is no actual design plan that just hasn’t been announced yet. It’s also not a plan specific to Disney’s Hollywood Studios.

100% agreed. That’s why we are talking about pie in the sky concepts of what may go to AC and not concrete plans. For all of us we see a stagnant area of the park ripe for improvement but there’s no guarantee it happens and as you said no guarantee anything goes to DHS at all. We also all assume that if DHS gets an allocation of funds it will be spent on a project in this area but they could opt for echo lake instead. Indy has costs to operate and Star Tours could be rethemed. Seems foolish to go that direction since the park needs more capacity but they’ve done foolish things before.

 

[Rich Brownn]

Neither company wants to pay for a ton of animatronics & a good dark ride is usually full of them. Both companies have become focused on having 1 or 2 showstopper animatronics: that's easier to not seem lackluster (Hi, Na'vi River) if it's a part of a thrill ride (Hagrid's for example).

It'll be interesting to see how well the animatronics in Epic will be (There's 14 in the Monsters ride and at least 2 in Potter).

 

[SpectreJordan]

It'll be interesting to see how well the animatronics in Epic will be (There's 14 in the Monsters ride and at least 2 in Potter).

The Monsters animatronics look amazing. I'm happy there's a decent amount in that ride, but it's still a far cry from how many are in something like Pirates. But the thrill aspect of that ride should make that less noticeable at least.

 

[plutofan15]

Would this make Sesame Place a Disney Park? I would finally have a Disney Park within driving distance of my house.

I was a lifeguard at Sesame Place back in the mid 80s. A few friends from the group which I worked with moved on to Disney and made some significant contributions.

 

[Cmdr_Crimson]

Uni has the rights to use property for parks overseas.
As do others elsewhere.

But maybe not a bad idea for Peacock. Universal Kids branding could benefit.

Honestly for its own sake I wish it back to PBS.

Even the Peanuts characters are being used there....So, even having six flags parks in the mix

 

[EagleScout610]

Nice to see the two old cranks, but does Waldorf sound very off to anyone else? Statler sounds spot on, but Waldorf sounds very "Impression-y" in a way.

 

[celluloid]

Nice to the two old cranks, but does Waldorf sound very off to anyone else? Statler sounds spot on, but Waldorf sounds very "Impression-y" in a way.

It's been rough like that for a bit now...
The Matt V effect bht more that Dave G is probably aging.
Personally I find it to be the rougher with Statler most of the time. Since no more Nelson and Steve W.

 

[Blobbles]

It's been rough like that for a bit now...
The Matt V effect bht more that Dave G is probably aging.
Personally I find it to be the rougher with Statler most of the time. Since no more Nelson and Steve W.

Dave goelz is sadly aging. old gonzo in haunted mansion made me realize that and I didn’t like it lol. I don’t want him to retire yet, but if he does decide to do it soon it would be more than well earned.