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DHS Monster Inc Land Coming to Disney's Hollywood Studios

abaker1975

abaker1975

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For people that love Muppets (I do). Are you upset that Muppets are being erased or that the attraction Muppet Vision 3D could close? I have no problem with Muppet Vision 3D closing but would be sad if Muppets get totally erased at WDW.

In my dream - the Monster Inc. door coaster would become a part of Pixar Place, Muppets would get a brand new attraction to replace MV3D, Animation Courtyard would get rid of Launch Bay, reopen an improved Little Mermaid Show and a new attraction on the level of Roger Rabbits Cartoon Spin at Disneyland would be added.

But no - of course this can't happen. Instead we get a new whole Monster Inc. land that will take over Muppet's Courtyard for the net benefit of 0 additional attractions.

Disney Company really deserve to be 2nd in Theme Park wars - they might actually start to go above and beyond again.
 
trainplane3

trainplane3

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abaker1975 said:
For people that love Muppets (I do). Are you upset that Muppets are being erased or that the attraction Muppet Vision 3D could close? I have no problem with Muppet Vision 3D closing but would be sad if Muppets get totally erased at WDW.

In my dream - the Monster Inc. door coaster would become a part of Pixar Place, Muppets would get a brand new attraction to replace MV3D, Animation Courtyard would get rid of Launch Bay, reopen an improved Little Mermaid Show and a new attraction on the level of Roger Rabbits Cartoon Spin at Disneyland would be added.

But no - of course this can't happen. Instead we get a new whole Monster Inc. land that will take over Muppet's Courtyard for the net benefit of 0 additional attractions.

Disney Company really deserve to be 2nd in Theme Park wars - they might actually start to go above and beyond again.
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For me it's the combo of losing MV3D but also just replacing another well performing attraction. I'm just tired of attraction replacements. Add to the parks, stop replacing. Tron was the first addition in a long time that we got. Nearly everything else was a replacement. After experiencing DL it just makes me wonder why MK has so little to do.
 
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Streetway

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abaker1975 said:
For people that love Muppets (I do). Are you upset that Muppets are being erased or that the attraction Muppet Vision 3D could close? I have no problem with Muppet Vision 3D closing but would be sad if Muppets get totally erased at WDW.

In my dream - the Monster Inc. door coaster would become a part of Pixar Place, Muppets would get a brand new attraction to replace MV3D, Animation Courtyard would get rid of Launch Bay, reopen an improved Little Mermaid Show and a new attraction on the level of Roger Rabbits Cartoon Spin at Disneyland would be added.

But no - of course this can't happen. Instead we get a new whole Monster Inc. land that will take over Muppet's Courtyard for the net benefit of 0 additional attractions.

Disney Company really deserve to be 2nd in Theme Park wars - they might actually start to go above and beyond again.
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Honestly a bit of both. I want muppets to live on at wdw, and I would LOVE a new attraction at wdw with the gang. But muppet vision 3D also has some historic value with it being the final time the original muppet crew was all together, and Jim’s last project. Also it would hit close to home, as demolishing a Jim Henson built attraction, even for a new modern muppets one, would sting for muppets fans, who have had to deal with Disney’s mismanagement of the franchise. No matter what new muppets would come, it would just kinda feel like a huge middle finger.
As for me personally, I love the muppets, it’s a funny and classic attraction, the Jim stuff is worth fighting for, and it’s one of the few links to the past for DHS. Also replacing vs adding too
 
Surferboy567

Surferboy567

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ToTBellHop said:
Oh I’m not judging. I’m here, too! I care much more about MV3D than RoA. We visit MV3D every vacation while we usually skip the RoA attractions. They are left for “every other line is too long!” days for us.
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I too care much more about Muppets than Rivers. Just for the simple fact I love the Muppets. Didn’t mean for that to come off like anyone was judging was just a snarky comment.
 
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doctornick

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abaker1975 said:
For people that love Muppets (I do). Are you upset that Muppets are being erased or that the attraction Muppet Vision 3D could close? I have no problem with Muppet Vision 3D closing but would be sad if Muppets get totally erased at WDW.
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I'm the opposite. I like the Muppets and MV and prefer to keep them around but don't have a problem if they go away from the parks.

I just think the loss of MV is a terrible idea for the functioning of DHS and they shouldn't be touching that area of the park unless/until they build in backstage areas first and increase overall capacity. I also think the idea of closing MV and spending money to add Muppets in some other location is a waste of resources. There's no reason to "shuffle deck chairs" for no capacity gain.

At a minimum, if Monsters Inc is going to replace Muppets, they should be replacing MV with a Monsters show in addition to the door coaster (and playground ideally). My primary concern is that they increase the total number of attractions in the park.
 
The Leader of the Club

The Leader of the Club

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abaker1975 said:
For people that love Muppets (I do). Are you upset that Muppets are being erased or that the attraction Muppet Vision 3D could close? I have no problem with Muppet Vision 3D closing but would be sad if Muppets get totally erased at WDW.
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I’m upset that MuppetVision 3D would close. It’s Jim Henson’s final performance as Kermit the Frog. It’s WDI and the Muppets on the top of their game. I don't think modern Muppets or WDI can come close to the humor or heart of this show and I think they’d agree.

It’s also the setting in which the Muppets work best. They’re putting on a show. Fozzie is telling lame jokes, Beaker is getting hurt, and Statler and Waldorf are heckling from their box. It’s almost like you actually are experiencing getting to watch the Muppet Show live. I don’t think another attraction format would suit them as well, as much as I’d love a dark ride.
 
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doctornick

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trainplane3 said:
For me it's the combo of losing MV3D but also just replacing another well performing attraction. I'm just tired of attraction replacements. Add to the parks, stop replacing. Tron was the first addition in a long time that we got. Nearly everything else was a replacement. After experiencing DL it just makes me wonder why MK has so little to do.
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to give some credit, Ratatouille was also a pure addition.
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

Premium Member
fgmnt said:
I think the biggest economic effect you could see for these capital projects would be the Fed’s rate cuts over the next year not going in Disney’s direction.
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For the overall capital improvement 10 year plan…..maybe, but for these initial projects it’s much less likely to matter. They won’t need to borrow money to finance these lands. The vast majority of the debt matures 5+ years out so not much refinance risk. The use of cash for these projects is already built into the capital allocation plan laid out to Wall Street. It could be that they pull back in the second half of the “decade” if they want more cash for stock buybacks but that would be more based on longer term economics vs something short term like delayed rate cuts over the next year.

If the order of construction is AK, Cars, Monsters and then Villians it seems likely the first 2 will get done as is. Monsters could be slightly at risk and the most likely to be impacted by a pull back in funding would be villians which I assume will be last to open. That’s just the WDW spend. There’s billions allocated to ships, DLR and the international parks as well.
 
Pi on my Cake

Pi on my Cake

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I know they were very specifically trying to avoid anymore blue sky vague announcements this year. But I think MuppetVision closing for a Monsters Inc mini-land would've gone over a lot better if there was a confirmation that Anination Courtyard was next and a blue sky tease of finally connecting it to Sunset with a new Land or a few mini-lands or whatever. Have Beyond Sunset as this D23's Beyond Big Thunder announcement at the end. That plus a new temporary Muppets show in the Mickey Shorts theater (could even just be an old Muppets clips compilation).

MuppetVision is a 30+ year old 3D movie. One of, if not the, longest running 3D films in a major theme park. One of the longest running shows at WDW to not get any major changes. It's had a good life. I doubt you'd see this kind of outrage over it if there was confirmation that it wasn't being demolished for no good reason and that there was more plans for Muppets in the future
 
The Leader of the Club

The Leader of the Club

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Pi on my Cake said:
I know they were very specifically trying to avoid anymore blue sky vague announcements this year. But I think MuppetVision closing for a Monsters Inc mini-land would've gone over a lot better if there was a confirmation that Anination Courtyard was next and a blue sky tease of finally connecting it to Sunset with a new Land or a few mini-lands or whatever. Have Beyond Sunset as this D23's Beyond Big Thunder announcement at the end. That plus a new temporary Muppets show in the Mickey Shorts theater (could even just be an old Muppets clips compilation).

MuppetVision is a 30+ year old 3D movie. One of, if not the, longest running 3D films in a major theme park. One of the longest running shows at WDW to not get any major changes. It's had a good life. I doubt you'd see this kind of outrage over it if there was confirmation that it wasn't being demolished for no good reason and that there was more plans for Muppets in the future
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I’d need several things to happen before I’m ready to say goodbye to MuppetVision

1. Animation Courtyard needs to be fully fleshed out.
2. Muppets need another attraction somewhere.
3.MuppetVision needs to be preserved on Disney+.
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Sneaky said:
This site has made the word “mandate” lose its meaning for me. This has always been a thing, replacing older stuff with newer stuff. I shudder to imagine what the star tours replacing inner space news would be like if this forum was around at the time. It does suck for muppets to close though, and they shouldn’t do it
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Imagine if Universal fans decided to rise up and get replacements of part of lost continent and later Jaws blocked.

Replacing older stuff with newer stuff is always going to be part of the plan with any park. In a park like MK they will be adding substantial used capacity since the stuff they are replacing was not highly used. Makes perfect sense if you focus only on issue of ride capacity plus opens easy access to villians. My issue with Cars is different but for a different thread. I think AK is a similar story. While the project is a retheme of 1 ride that new ride will likely be much more popular so will eat more people (including time spent in line) which helps the rest of the park. Encanto will be a huge upgrade over the carnival rides. Win for the park even if they are replacing vs expanding.

Monsters could be more of the same or not. It’s either replacing Muppets or replacing Launch Bay. I think the obvious choice is Launch Bay, especially if they go deeper into backstage areas. Star Wars meet and greets could be moved. If they replace Muppets you lose a people eater with low wait times and no height restrictions and if the rumors are true no room for a MI show for that location. If you keep muppets and they have have room for a MI show too at AC you get 2 shows with low waits and no height restrictions.
 
Gusey

Gusey

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If it is Muppets to close, it's removing an attraction without a height requirement for a rollercoaster with a height requirement, meaning there'll be even less for everyone in the family to enjoy. Remember, the whole reason that the door coaster was first cancelled was because Hollywood studios needed more for families rather than more thrill rides, and it's still in the same state
 

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