Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

[Wendy Pleakley]

BHC4 was really good. Probably the best in the franchise after the first one. The only thing that didn't work for me was forcing in Bronson Pinchot's character.

For me, when we're talking about the fourth movie in the series that needs to find a way to repeat the same basic premise, everything that happens is arguably forced.

You're not wrong, but there's a suspension of disbelief that allows the movie to exist.

If I can accept that the Detroit cop who plays by his own rules has to follow a case to Beverly Hills where he's a fish out of water, for the fourth time, shoehorning in the same character is pretty much a non-issue for me.

 

[BrianLo]

I checked and it's tracking to open in the $50 million range, which is decent but falls short of the original when inflation is taken into account.

It’s going to need a 75-80 million opening weekend or a strong over performative international market to break even with that type of opening. It’s a 200 million production.

I’d qualify 50 as a probable miss if it sticks.

 

[TP2000]

I enjoyed BHC4. Who does not love Serge!!!!! They Had to include Serge!

Because I'm old, I always get Serge and Franck (from Father Of The Bride) confused, but you're right. Serge is an icon.

But so is Franck. Martin Short just doing grocery shopping would be hilarious, but as Franck it's even better.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Given the strength of the trailer and the behavior of the 2024 box office, my skepticism regarding the potential of Gladiator 2 has faded considerably.

 

[Prince-1]

Given the strength of the trailer and the behavior of the 2024 box office, my skepticism regarding the potential of Gladiator 2 has faded considerably.

The trailer looks great and I hope the movie is even better.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Given the strength of the trailer and the behavior of the 2024 box office, my skepticism regarding the potential of Gladiator 2 has faded considerably.

It's so unpredictable.

Last year it was all about Oppenheimer and Barbie. The era of sequels was over. It was all about the cultural event (Barbie) or the prestige quality release (Nolan + IMAX).

This year it's all about the familiar. An original franchise with the so-so reviews Despicable Me 4 got would probably be dead on arrival. However, minions. They're still a super popular thing.

Inside Out was good, but who would have thought that a sequel would eclipse it to become one of the biggest animated movies of all time?

Bad Boys and Beverly Hills Cop are long-term franchises that are still drawing viewers.

Gladiator 2 looks fun, but will it jump the shark? No, really, There are sharks now. I can see it doing well based on the trailer, just from a spectacle standpoint. Will it have the same draw the other sequels have, with a shift to new characters? Will the trailer sell the movie to enough of us who were asking, why is there a Gladiator 2?

 

[BrianLo]

Given the strength of the trailer and the behavior of the 2024 box office, my skepticism regarding the potential of Gladiator 2 has faded considerably.

I do think the trailer is fairly good. Though a weird, dichotomous musical choice.

That feels like a very corporate decision.

 

[Prince-1]

Maybe Kevin Costner can go back and finish Yellowstone since his Horizon gamble failed miserably.

Kevin Costner’s ‘Horizon 2’ Pulled From August Release in Theaters After First Film Flops (Exclusive)

Costner's Territory Pictures and New Line Cinema made the decision in order to give audiences more time to discover the initial movie before the sequel.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Minnesota disney fan]

Maybe Kevin Costner can go back and finish Yellowstone since his Horizon gamble failed miserably.

Kevin Costner’s ‘Horizon 2’ Pulled From August Release in Theaters After First Film Flops (Exclusive)

Costner's Territory Pictures and New Line Cinema made the decision in order to give audiences more time to discover the initial movie before the sequel.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

My daughter and her husband, who love Westerns, went to see that movie last night.
They did not like it at all. They had nothing but bad to say about it. It seems they introduce several different themes or stories and never connect them at all. They stayed for the whole thing, but did not have anything nice to say about it. Too bad. I like Kevin Costner and hoped this would be a winner for him.

 

[Disney Irish]

My daughter and her husband, who love Westerns, went to see that movie last night.
They did not like it at all. They had nothing but bad to say about it. It seems they introduce several different themes or stories and never connect them at all. They stayed for the whole thing, but did not have anything nice to say about it. Too bad. I like Kevin Costner and hoped this would be a winner for him.

I haven't seen it, but its a multi-part movie series. So that is probably why it seems like they introduce things that don't finish or connect. The next part was suppose to come out in August, guess its not anymore.

 

[Minnesota disney fan]

I haven't seen it, but its a multi-part movie series. So that is probably why it seems like they introduce things that don't finish or connect. The next part was suppose to come out in August, guess its not anymore.

Yes, I know it was supposed to. It seems ALL of the movie was not liked. They struggled to stay 2 hours, and then suffered through to the 3 hoping they would tie something together. Didn't happen. I don't know what Costner was thinking?

 

[Disney Irish]

Yes, I know it was supposed to. It seems ALL of the movie was not liked. They struggled to stay 2 hours, and then suffered through to the 3 hoping they would tie something together. Didn't happen. I don't know what Costner was thinking?

Maybe he thought he had enough cachet to get people to come back for a multi-part series.

 

[Prince-1]

My daughter and her husband, who love Westerns, went to see that movie last night.
They did not like it at all. They had nothing but bad to say about it. It seems they introduce several different themes or stories and never connect them at all. They stayed for the whole thing, but did not have anything nice to say about it. Too bad. I like Kevin Costner and hoped this would be a winner for him.

I saw it and felt the same way. It was pretty bad which was unfortunate as I’m a fan of Costner but this was trash. I think his ego got to big for this project.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Maybe Kevin Costner can go back and finish Yellowstone since his Horizon gamble failed miserably.

Kevin Costner’s ‘Horizon 2’ Pulled From August Release in Theaters After First Film Flops (Exclusive)

Costner's Territory Pictures and New Line Cinema made the decision in order to give audiences more time to discover the initial movie before the sequel.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

“The audience response to Horizon, and enthusiasm for seeing our story continue in Horizon 2, has been incredibly gratifying."

That is some generous spin.

I wouldn't be surprised if the second doesn't even make it to theaters.

I haven't seen it, but its a multi-part movie series. So that is probably why it seems like they introduce things that don't finish or connect. The next part was suppose to come out in August, guess its not anymore.

It's a four part series no less. That's a big risk and expectation of audience commitment for a movie series.

 

[Disney Irish]

“The audience response to Horizon, and enthusiasm for seeing our story continue in Horizon 2, has been incredibly gratifying."

That is some generous spin.

I wouldn't be surprised if the second doesn't even make it to theaters.



It's a four part series no less. That's a big risk and expectation of audience commitment for a movie series.

I suspect the rest of the series will head to streaming.....

 

[Ghost93]

Maybe Kevin Costner can go back and finish Yellowstone since his Horizon gamble failed miserably.

Kevin Costner’s ‘Horizon 2’ Pulled From August Release in Theaters After First Film Flops (Exclusive)

Costner's Territory Pictures and New Line Cinema made the decision in order to give audiences more time to discover the initial movie before the sequel.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

That's dissapointing, I was looking forward to part 2.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I suspect the rest of the series will head to streaming.....

He left a TV show to make a movie that could now, ironically, be a TV series.

Seems like a better fit from an audience engagement perspective but I understand why he sees it as meant for theaters given the types of movies he's made in the past.

 

[Disney Irish]

He left a TV show to make a movie that could now, ironically, be a TV series.

Seems like a better fit from an audience engagement perspective but I understand why he sees it as meant for theaters given the types of movies he's made in the past.

Well I wouldn't call it a TV series if it goes to streaming, it would still be a series of movies just a streaming series of movies.

 

[Ghost93]

Well I wouldn't call it a TV series if it goes to streaming, it would still be a series of movies just a streaming series of movies.

The first Horizon movie WAS structured like a TV Pilot, however, with dozens of characters and at least 5 different plotlines introduced and no resolution to any of them. I feel pretty confident that this project will be viewed more fondly once it's actually completed and people can see how these characters evolve and how the plotlines intersect.

 

[Disney Irish]

The first Horizon movie WAS structured like a TV Pilot, however, with dozens of characters and at least 5 different plotlines introduced and no resolution to any of them. I feel pretty confident that this project will be viewed more fondly once it's actually completed and people can see how these characters evolve and how the plotlines intersect.

Which puts it more inline with a mini-series than a traditional TV show, just in theatrical format.