MK Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

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Brer Oswald

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Okay here’s a question for those who watched: I know they were planning to keep those fountains that jump over you in Splash. Did they at least fix those? I’m digging a little deeper for some positivity…
They did. Thankfully. That's like...the one thing I'm happy about. And the coloured lights they added in the water within that section. So at least we have that. I guess.
 

MadderAdder

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I wish this had been way more simplified. I like that one idea about having a band missing for the party. So we’re going down the Bayou to gather musicians and now we’re late to the party so Mama Odie sends us on a short cut. Even Louis trying to find his missing trumpet is cuter/more coherent…
 

Professortango1

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MMRR and Mission:Breakout are very good, Mystic Manor is a masterpiece, and RotR is pretty good. But most of the rides Imagineering has produced for over a decade are not good. Much more tellingly, they’re not good IN SIMILAR WAYS. We can identify the awful habits and trends and ways of thinking. It’s much easier and more enjoyable to blame management, and they bare a lot of blame. But there is more then enough evidence at this point to demonstrate that there is something fundamentally broken about the way Imagineering thinks about its job.
I'd say that MMRR is cute as a big D-Ticket. Mission BO is a disappointment and is a 5/10 for me. Rise is a fun experience, but the ride itself is an 7-8/10, depending on how much isn't working. Splash was a 9/10 for me when it was working. Tiana's is about a 6 from what I see.
 

Mr. Sullivan

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I don’t think it’s fair or helpful to dismiss all criticism in this way, just as I feel it’s wrong to call those who like what they’ve seen Disney shills. People are allowed to have different responses and inevitably will.

I agree that most guests will probably enjoy the ride a lot. I’m sure I’ll enjoy it too. I just don’t think it lives up to what it’s replaced.
I agree with you normally, but honestly at this point this is a huge release of frustration.

It isn't aimed at everyone criticizing the attraction because not everyone has been this way and there are things worth criticizing.

But ever since this got underway, there have been a segment of people on this forum, on Twitter, on Reddit, and beyond who seemingly made it their life's mission to make this whole process as absolutely miserable for everyone as humanly possible. They were unhappy so they worked long and hard to make sure everyone else was unhappy too.

Every step of the way, it was picking apart one thing or another to the point that it was inevitable that they were going to hate the final product, even if it was the greatest attraction Disney had ever done. Every time someone said they liked something, they were forced to justify it because some found it so unimaginable that someone could like it that they simply couldn't just let people be happy and had to demand the reasons why they could possibly enjoy what they were seeing.

It has never been popular to be excited for this ride, just as it won't be popular in Disney fan spaces for anyone to enjoy it. It's all been one giant echo chamber of hating it while everyone who doesn't had to sit there and defend it. And that's just so....insane for a theme park ride. It's a ride. A ride. And it's been treated like some gigantic sin that represents the moral decay of everything to do with the parks.

To everyone who's not felt super excited along the way but tried their best to engage in good faith with it and found themselves still disappointed in it, that is so, so, so valid. I've felt the same way in regards to some attractions. This frustration is not at all aimed at them.

It's at the people who've spent the last year being completely, unashamedly negative about every little thing and can't even spare one even semi-positive remark because apparently that'd just be too much. I hope when some time has passed from opening, those people can look back on their behavior through all this and realize just how ridiculous it all has been and hopefully never devote that much time and energy to being this way over a theme park ride again.

Sorry for the essay, sorry if this is aggressive, I don't mean for it to be. This is just the culmination of so much annoyance and frustration that has absolutely ruined this whole process, my first time really getting to follow a ride's development from beginning to end, something that ought to've been joyous and exciting for a Disney nerd to get to do. Thank God I'm still looking forward to riding the ride, but lord I'm almost to the point of joining these people in wishing it didn't exist if only it means all this insane immature noise stops.
 

Casper Gutman

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It’s not just tension. Setting the physical ride experience aside, what is entertaining here about the narrative and visuals? There is no humor, no wit, no risk, no excitement, no charm, no whimsy, and very, very little visual variety (that last bit is the single most important element in a dark ride). It’s pretty, but it’s all pretty in the same way and in a way we’ve seen before over in River Adventure.

The only real entertainment is “remember this?” It conjures up very basic connections to visual elements of the IP devoid of anything significant -emotion, tone, etc. Even in this way the connection is limited, since only Tiana, Louis, and the music function as reminders of the film - Facilier, Naveen, Ray, etc are absent. The ride functions like the very worst of reboot cinema, films like Frozen Empire or Independence Day 2, which simply repeat beats of the original with no grasp of WHY they originally worked.

While Vastly more technologically advanced, it’s a less entertaining attraction then Six Flag’s Monster Mansion.

Again… where’s the entertainment? There’s no there there.
 

Cliff

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For all of those demanding a story,...you dont need it! We got some diversity and some great animatronics. Yes, I miss the villan too but that doctor, I'm told, promotes negative stereotypes in 2024 and is not DEI friendly right now.

Most average park guests dont have the high standards that many on this forum have. These people just want to see the "robots" and see some representation and clap their hands as they sing along.

This ride checks all the boxes for 99% of "normie" fans that don't think about attractions very hard.

This ride will be great for most people.
 

Tha Realest

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Not sure this is a fair metric when we all know this would be the same even if they showed us the single greatest ride history had ever seen because swaths of people who would be watching this decided that they were going to attack this no matter what before Splash was even mercifully put to rest.
What about bookings? Is that a fair metric? By many accounts this is was pushed to open in summer so they had something to entice bookings this summer and fall.

Has the website crashed today?
 

Casper Gutman

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What I’ve noticed is a curious and sometimes baffling inconsistency in the quality of the Imagineers’ output. It seems to me what’s missing is strong creative oversight and guidance.
I’m afraid I disagree a bit. Yes, they’ve produced a few gems, but generally they’ve been VERY consistent. FEA, LM, RotR, Zootopia, GotG, even the new Fantasy Springs rides have VERY similar sensibilities. If, when it was first announced, this board had drawn up a plan for what the completed TBA would look like based on past experience, I think we would have gotten VERY close.
 

Mr. Sullivan

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What about bookings? Is that a fair metric? By many accounts this is was pushed to open in summer so they had something to entice bookings this summer and fall.

Has the website crashed today?
No, not really, it isn't. Every ride is built with some degree of wanting to bring people en masse into parks, but not every one will not even the really good ones.

The metric is gonna be are people getting on it and are they enjoying it. That's pretty much the long and short of it. Bookings this summer aren't gonna mean jack when the ride is gonna be standing for decades. It's about how people feel once they get off of it, which is the true measure of success for every single attraction Disney or any other theme park for that matter ever build. But I've no doubt in my mind people will find a way to spend people riding it and loving it into some negative thing as well.
 

SuddenStorm

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The metric is gonna be are people getting on it and are they enjoying it.

That is absolutely not how Disney is going to measure the success of this. New attractions are gauged on how many new bookings they drive to the park, and merchandise sales.

If this ride doesn't increase attendance this year and next relative to how many bookings Splash drove, and if it's merchandise doesn't take off Disney won't consider it a success.
 

pigglewiggle

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It really doesn’t show that. I’m glad you think so positively of the online community and haven’t gotten into the weeds of hate brigading on sites like YouTube, Rotten Tomatoes, etc. But the likes and dislikes on videos like this, movie trailers, music videos, etc are not and never will be an accurate reflection of how people feel positive or negative. They visit these sites with an agenda be it a good or bad one.

Just needs to be repeated.
 

the_rich

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That is absolutely not how Disney is going to measure the success of this. New attractions are gauged on how many new bookings they drive to the park, and merchandise sales.

If this ride doesn't increase attendance this year and next relative to how many bookings Splash drove, and if it's merchandise doesn't take off Disney won't consider it a success.
I'm obviously only one person, but I wasn't planning on going this year. Between wanting to see this and moana I decided to book an August trip.
 

Casper Gutman

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Hey, why the heck are there no giant fireflies in the shrinking section? You know, the most visually unique and amusing designs in the franchise, linked to one of the most memorable characters?
 

JohnD

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There’s just clearly way more fauna and flora than animals/animatronics. Definitely less exciting… also I personally don’t like how spotlighted Tiana/others gets versus softer lighting to blend into the scene.
Why at the very least they couldn't figure out there should be no less than a 1 for 1 replacement of AAs is beyond me. Instead, AAs are replaced with ... nothing.
 
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