My point is that some topics don’t get a lot of run here.
I believe @Casper Gutman’s point is that the topic most certainly would not have sailed by had the film done badly (or, by the same token, had it been a non-Disney studio profiting from it).
That's a rather passive aggressive way to communicate, don't you think?
On his part? I don’t think so. His point was justified in my view, and clear enough to those of us who’ve followed the thread.
i have seen it… It was ok… I didn’t love it….I have my theories what Casper was hinting at..as the film over performed it’s opening weekend projections
It's just an easy way to say everyone's so anti Disney. I haven't seen it, and I probably won't see it because I've never been a fan of the apes movies. It's not done bad so far, and it has a good chance at making profit. It does seem like the budget was revised because I thought it was originally reported as 125/130mil. So now at 160/165mil, it's going need to be between 420 to 450 depending on marketing. We will see in a couple few weeks how it's trending.
I know this is supposed to be a jab at the "Disney haters". But why aren't all the non haters talking about it? This seems to happen a lot around here. It's more of indictment on the so called fans. If people weren't talking about what went wrong with the movies, most of the topics would have just died off. Just look at mermaid. There were two threads, one for box-office and one to discuss the films content and story.... Care to guess what thread died almost instantly? Let's face it, nothing against apes but it's never really been a film that's garnered that much attention. They've done well and been consistent performers but they seem to come and go without a lot of fanfare.
Many, and perhaps most, of the posts in this thread are written by people who’ve never seen the films whose box-office performance they’re continually commenting on! That’s why the current silence is quite telling.
The huge bulk of contentless posts, the bad faith, the willful (and often proud) ignorance, and most of all the steadfast refusal to engage in actual discussion of the industry in general and box office in particular that define this thread have pushed out all put a small number of posters, most of whom after the schadenfreude of seeing Disney fail.
I get that. But it's not all that telling. If someone isn't going to see the film, and there isn't anything to talk about yet. Why would they talk about it? I gave it it's props, and I know others did too, but there isn't all that much to talk about right now. Sure it had a good start, from what I've seen most agreed. It's far from over though. Isn't this what you guys wanted? Would you rather everyone jump in with "it's far from it's 450mil goal, it's gonna be a huge flop!!!!?" I think not. So it seems just a bit poke the bear for the sake of poking the bear.
Had it failed, they’d be VERY concerned.
That’s never stoped people from posting daily updates on films that didn’t succeed… they have not seen…repeating the stuff day after day
Like I said to Buford, It had a good start, that has been acknowledged by most, even the "bad faith" posters. But we'll see how it continues, hopefully it stays strong. But as of now, there's not a lot to talk about.
One possible answer might be that the old Apes movies were done many years ago. No one remembers them. I watched them when they came out, but after watching some of the old ones on TV recently, I find I am not interested in them anymore. I really thought I would be going to the theatre to watch this one, but I find I just have no interest anymore. It was a very long time ago that those movies were popular. Just another thought on why the silence.
That's the thing, nothing has killed it in the last few years. Guardians did well and was praised pretty heavily. But in no way did it kill it. It's not silent as it's made out to be. If there's not enough discussions on apes, where are all the supporters who have seen it? Nows their chance to discuss while all the haters are so silent.
Well unfortunately there hasn't been a whole lot of non flops to talk about over the years. So we really don't have a lot of options.
Again, it had a good start. It's a bit early to say thrive. I hope it does, they kept the budget within reason and it still looks good from an effects standpoint. It also doesn't seem to have overspent on the marketing. So that would be a great turnaround if it can get over $450mil to make a profit.
Now that's a great discussion. Don't you think that would have been a better discussion to start than the passive aggressive jab at the "haters"? And it wasn't even accurate really because just the page before there was examples debunking your claims.
I'm not convinced it's doing very well. All indications are that its final worldwide gross will be in the mid $300 millions. Its inflation-adjusted domestic gross is the weakest in the reboot franchise. Its opening was down film over film in markets around the world. This seems like a franchise that is fading. Its streaming numbers might perform well, but I don't think this is one to get triumphant over from a box office perspective.
It would be the first Deadpool film to cross $1 billion and there’s a lot of overlap between Wolverine and Deadpool fans. I think there’s a lot of fan expectation that Deadpool 3 will cross $1 billion and I’m not sure it’s justified.