Tha Realest
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An AI utilizing quantum processing technology that’s contextualized all of the works of John Hench wouldn’t be able to square those disparate properties into one coherent, thematic land.
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News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom
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An AI utilizing quantum processing technology that’s contextualized all of the works of John Hench wouldn’t be able to square those disparate properties into one coherent, thematic land.
Gusey
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There is an expansion plot between Pirates and Jungle Cruise, where Fire Mountain was supposed to go.
I think a Moana attraction is likely given its streaming numbers, just not sure if beyond Big Thunder is the correct location
Splashin' Ryan
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It would be really nice to get a third "mountain" back after the loss of a mountain from the name in TBA. Some kind of Moana Mountain seems like the best way to get there and would you know, there are lots of mountains in the story of Moana! Id give everything to revive or fund the volcano Moana idea.
Pi on my Cake
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- In the Parks
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I just don't see a ride where the premise is "join the cops on a police chase after going through a queue that's a prison" playing well to a modern American audience. Even ignoring how out of place that would be in the Magic Kingdom it just isn't gonna work
Moana feels more like Adventureland but there might not really be room there. Plus, the only actual "Polynesian" part of Adventureland at wdw is the Tiki Room. Perhaps the Tiki Room could get moved (along with a slight update) to the new Moana/Polynesian area which would help that land (or mini-land whatever) feel less like just a single IP. Take out the theater and Magic Carpets. Fix that horrible bottle neck. And add a new A-Ticket or meet and greet in that space that will take up less room
Villains works. I like that the best since it isn't a single IP, just based around a vibe or a concept which feels very fitting for Magic Kingdom since most of the other lands are more vibe/concept based rather than immersive areas or IP based. A Haunted Forest or spooky carnival or ruined castle or whatever full of Villains that uses Haunted Mansion as a transition point to Liberty Squarr sounds like a slam dunk as long as they don't get too intense that it scares little ones away
I don't put much stock in what he says as being reliable, but aside from Zootopia I could see this working well.
James Alucobond
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As stated, an Adventureland expansion plot is available, and while the Beyond Big Thunder area is a clean slate, that doesn't mean it should be a dumping ground for three unrelated things. Big Thunder > Coco > Villains > Liberty Square has a certain amount of sensible flow. You go from the American Southwest to Mexico, from which you could use Ernesto's mausoleum and/or the Land of the Dead to transition into a villains area. From there, it's reasonable to exit toward the Haunted Mansion in Liberty Square.
pdude81
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That satisfies the capacity argument, but I can't imagine a world where they build between POTC and JC that doesn't require a good chunk of downtime for JC for rerouting. And even then the sightlines look a bit hairy unless they build a monstrosity there (like Fire Mountain). If they could have thought more clearly years back they should have turned Splash Mountain into a Moana Volcano flume.
aladdin2007
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They are already doing the zooptopia show for tree of life at AK, I don't understand why it has to be dumped in at the MK too, it just does not belong. Again, if true....but then we already have moana at epcot, they are just on this plop as much as they can of one thing everywhere. Its short sighted. again, if true lol...
Advisable Joseph
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Recall that @marni1971 said that new construction would be northwest of Big Thunder Mountain, more like west.
Thus, I think Jim Shull's idea of "loop around the Rivers of America" is much broader than you might think, including the canal to the Seven Seas Lagoon and the creek to the north of Rivers of America.
Moana could be across the canal from current Adventureland.
Zootopia would be west/northwest of Big Thunder Mountain, with mountains blocking the view from Frontierland (Big Thunder Mountain and Tom Sawyer Island), except for Tiana's Bayou Adventure and possibly the Country Bears.
Zootopia, Tiana's Bayou Adventure and Country Bears would form Critter Country. I can think of another possible district too, huh-huh!
Purduevian
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No JC rerouting required. There is already ~20foot wide path used for back stage. Reroute Caribbean way in red. Use blue as a guest path, and open up about 5.8 acers of land. For reference space mountain main building is 2 acers.
ToTBellHop
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Now THAT is where Indiana Jones Adventure should go. Just like Disneyland.
thats where the entire lost expiditions land should go imo
ToTBellHop
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It would actually work really well given the theming at Jungle Cruise, now, so, naturally, it will go to Animal Kingdom.
Purduevian
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I measure the lost river delta land at Tokyo Disney Sea ~5.7 acers so it could in theory fit in that area. if they went that route, they probably would need to re-route JC (or maybe they could expand the path just enough?). The only single entrance land/minilands I can think of are:
- Storybook circus: ~40 feet
- Animation Courtyard: ~60 feet
- Sunset Blvd: ~60 feet
- Critter Country: ~40 feet
- ToonTown: ~35 feet
No Coco? Zootopia in Tree of Life abandoned?
This reads like old info and wish fulfillment.
Well, it would make sense to also move Jungle Cruise to Disney's Jungle Kingdom while they're at it.
