News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[James Alucobond]

I posted the FL statutes that govern competitive bidding.

Which I do genuinely appreciate and think contributes to the discussion. I was responding to a post from before you did so.

 

[LAKid53]

I believe the District said the total value of the contract is less than $1 million, BUT they still didn't provide the actual amount and $999k would still be truthfully "under $1 million." But the statute you cited earlier says the value must be below $35k and there's no way that the work being done could possibly cost that little - especially when the District is being so cagey about the amount. It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that most of the Board members aren't even aware of that rule, but both Gilzean and Figgers should both know it. As for the others, ignorance is no excuse. If they're that clueless about how local governments have to operate then that's just further proof of their lack of qualifications to hold their positions and - combined with nonsense like this contract - cements the punitive nature of the Board's creation and appointment.

Did the Board fire ALL the RCID staff? If not, some of them should have been aware of the state competitive bid statute.

 

[flynnibus]

I agree... but at the same time, that's not the standard that was used to bring RCID down

Sorry, I don't agree on lowering your standards just because some tools do stupid stuff first.

 

[LAKid53]

Did the Board exempt itself from Chapter 119?

 

[MrPromey]

Sorry, I don't agree on lowering your standards just because some tools do stupid stuff first.

You never hear much about people living with honor in battle, do you?

There's a lot of variations on dying with it but not so much living.

Wonder why that is?

Anyway, we're a court of opinion, not law.

Things don't have to be illegal for them to be shady and we're not bound to the law when it comes to our opinions, are we?

 

[Batman'sParents]

Did the Board fire ALL the RCID staff? If not, some of them should have been aware of the state competitive bid statute.

Not fire, but there have been a lot of people leaving since the new board took over. Lots of retirements.

 

[mmascari]

Disney Says DeSantis' Oversight District Is "Dodging Obligations" to Produce Discovery, Asks Judge for Continuance

Disney has filed a motion for continuance in the state-level trial where it is a defendant against the Tourism Oversight District

blogmickey.com

 

[castlecake2.0]

Disney Says DeSantis' Oversight District Is "Dodging Obligations" to Produce Discovery, Asks Judge for Continuance

Disney has filed a motion for continuance in the state-level trial where it is a defendant against the Tourism Oversight District

blogmickey.com

They just keep making themselves look worse don’t they

 

[Stripes]

Quote from Disney’s continuance filing. Very interesting. LOL!

…the District’s motion for summary judgment argues that, “[p]ursuant to the Development Agreement, any other property owner in the District that wants to further develop its land must first obtain an assignment of development rights from Disney and then obtain written approval from Disney before using those development rights.” Mot. at 8-9 (emphasis added). This assertion only begs questions: Is there any property owner in the District “that wants to further develop its land”? Is there any property owner that could obtain “development rights” to “us[e]”? Some property owners, for example, may be subject to deeds that limit the extent to which new development rights may be received. Because the District has shirked its discovery obligations and Disney has not yet had sufficient time to complete discovery in any event, Disney lacks the opportunity to submit facts demonstrating a dispute as to whether any assertedly “affected” property owner was actually “affected.”

 

[DisneyDreamerxyz]

Does anyone know what will happen to the houses in Royal Oak or Bay Lake Court? Does the City Mayors etc still live in them?

 

[Stripes]

Does anyone know what will happen to the houses in Royal Oak or Bay Lake Court? Does the City Mayors etc still live in them?

Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista are still city governments that need to be elected by residents. So they will be staying.

 

[DisneyDreamerxyz]

Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista are still city governments that need to be elected by residents. So they will be staying.

would the new Board fill those roles once the current peoples terms are up? I believe most of those people were selected by Disney.

 

[Figgy1]

Does anyone know what will happen to the houses in Royal Oak or Bay Lake Court? Does the City Mayors etc still live in them?

would the new Board fill those roles once the current peoples terms are up? I believe most of those people were selected by Disney.

Paging @LAKid53. Can anything be done outside of the legislature to change the current municipalities?

 

[Stripes]

would the new Board fill those roles once the current peoples terms are up? I believe most of those people were selected by Disney.

Disney owns the land and leases it to the residents. That continues today. The CFTOD board has zero control over who lives in the district.

CFTOD now has zoning control over the cities, but that doesn’t mean they can control who lives there. Disney still control who lives in Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista. CFTOD has no power to dissolve the cities. Only the Florida legislature can do that.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Disney owns the land and leases it to the residents. That continues today. The CFTOD board has zero control over who lives in the district.

CFTOD now has zoning control over the cities, but that doesn’t mean they can control who lives there. Disney still control who lives in Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista. CFTOD has no power to dissolve the cities. Only the Florida legislature can do that.

What makes you think they won't?

 

[lewisc]

What makes you think they won't?

Because DeSantis hasn't asked them to do it

 

[Goofyernmost]

Because DeSantis hasn't asked them to do it

He will, if it sounds woke!

 

[Touchdown]

Because DeSantis hasn't asked them to do it

And DeSantis power has significantly deminished over the past year. Hes a lame duck at this point.

 

[DisneyDreamerxyz]

imagine being in the city council walking in the RCID Headquarter building and running into someone on the new CFTOD board.....must be awkward

 

[afterabme]

What makes you think they won't?

Two main reasons why:

1. Any legislation that is passed to dissolve the cities will be immediately added to TWDC's legal case. The legislature *might be more hesitant to pass any additional laws regarding CFTOD/RCID and Disney because of the ongoing state and federal litigation.

2. There are far more technicalities with trying to dissolve an active municipality.


Why they would:

1. One of the board members in March 2023 had previously stated they were interested in dissolving both cities. But doing so would require an action of the legislature or the city dissolving itself.

2. The CFTOD Board signed an agreement with a Professor from George Mason to study the district and they are required to provide ways to improve the district ( required by the legislation reauthorizing the district). The report could theoretically include a recommendation to dissolve the cities.


There's another, wacky way they could use to alter control of the cities.

Perhaps the CFTOD decides to build their affordable housing units(haven't heard a peep on it in a few months) in Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista. The people who live in those cities would get voting rights and the right to run for municipal positions like Mayor or City Council. By doing this, it makes it more difficult to main the existing setups within each city.