News Reedy Creek Improvement District and the Central Florida Tourism Oversight District

[afterabme]

What makes you think they won't?

Two main reasons why:

1. Any legislation that is passed to dissolve the cities will be immediately added to TWDC's legal case. The legislature *might be more hesitant to pass any additional laws regarding CFTOD/RCID and Disney because of the ongoing state and federal litigation.

2. There are far more technicalities with trying to dissolve an active municipality.


Why they would:

1. One of the board members in March 2023 had previously stated they were interested in dissolving both cities. But doing so would require an action of the legislature or the city dissolving itself.

2. The CFTOD Board signed an agreement with a Professor from George Mason to study the district and they are required to provide ways to improve the district ( required by the legislation reauthorizing the district). The report could theoretically include a recommendation to dissolve the cities.


There's another, wacky way they could use to alter control of the cities.

Perhaps the CFTOD decides to build their affordable housing units(haven't heard a peep on it in a few months) in Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista. The people who live in those cities would get voting rights and the right to run for municipal positions like Mayor or City Council. By doing this, it makes it more difficult to main the existing setups within each city.

 

[LAKid53]

What makes you think they won't?

For one, to dissolve a municipality will have taxing consequences. By both FL Constitution and statute, a chartered municipality can only be dissolved by:

1. Special session of the Florida Legislature, or
2. Ordinance of the governing body approved by voters within the legal boundaries of that municipality.

I don't think there's any will in the Legislature to dissolve a chartered municipality. Especially with an election coming up.

 

[peter11435]

Perhaps the CFTOD decides to build their affordable housing units(haven't heard a peep on it in a few months) in Bay Lake and Lake Buena Vista. The people who live in those cities would get voting rights and the right to run for municipal positions like Mayor or City Council. By doing this, it makes it more difficult to main the existing setups within each city.

The district would need to own available buildable land in those cities to construct affordable housing on.

 

[lewisc]

The district would need to own available buildable land in those cities to construct affordable housing on.

Eminent domain.

 

[LAKid53]

Eminent domain.

The district just can't seize property. Florida statute governs when, where and how eminent domain is handled.

 

[Stripes]

Eminent domain.

The district is prohibited by the Florida Constitution from transferring land acquired via eminent domain to a private party until 10 years after the property was acquired. Even then, Disney would have a right to bid on the property that was taken.

 

[peter11435]

Eminent domain.

Does not work that way

 

[LAKid53]

Does not work that way

In addition, the District would have to pay fair market value for any property.

 

[peter11435]

In addition, the District would have to pay fair market value for any property.

And would have nearly no way to justify using eminent domain for affordable housing.

 

[JoeCamel]

In addition, the District would have to pay fair market value for any property.

And all these years Disney worked hard at valuing the land as low as possible

 

[LAKid53]

And all these years Disney worked hard at valuing the land as low as possible

Guess what? Property value for tax purposes is done by the property appraiser's office. How the property value is reached is governed by statute.

 

[Goofyernmost]

For one, to dissolve a municipality will have taxing consequences. By both FL Constitution and statute, a chartered municipality can only be dissolved by:

1. Special session of the Florida Legislature, or
2. Ordinance of the governing body approved by voters within the legal boundaries of that municipality.

I don't think there's any will in the Legislature to dissolve a chartered municipality. Especially with an election coming up.

You guys aren't real good at recognizing sarcasm.

 

[JoeCamel]

Guess what? Property value for tax purposes is done by the property appraiser's office. How the property value is reached is governed by statute.

Yes, assessments were challenged to keep the value as low as possible

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yes, assessments were challenged to keep the value as low as possible

That’s still not the same as market value.

 

[lazyboy97o]

And would have nearly no way to justify using eminent domain for affordable housing.

Affordable housing would be a public benefit that has passed muster in the house. It would just have to be a classic “project” owned and operated by the government.

 

[peter11435]

Yes, assessments were challenged to keep the value as low as possible

No, assessments were challenged to keep the appraisers office from over valuing the property.

 

[peter11435]

Affordable housing would be a public benefit that has passed muster in the house. It would just have to be a classic “project” owned and operated by the government.

Yes, but I think it would be challenging for a district with nearly no residents to argue they need affordable housing; and that there is no where else it could be built.

 

[JoeCamel]

No, assessments were challenged to keep the appraisers office from over valuing the property.

Same same

 

[peter11435]

Same same

Not exactly

 

[lewisc]

Yes, but I think it would be challenging for a district with nearly no residents to argue they need affordable housing; and that there is no where else it could be built.

My comment was more tongue in cheek but..how many employees, AKA cast members, working in the district are living in cars seedy motels etc. Demonstrating the need for affordable housing wouldn’t be that challenging.