Disney's Live Action The Little Mermaid

[Tony the Tigger]

None of these family films should have political hoopla around it. Disney has jumped in head first and it's costing them at the box office.

However you put it, the point is it’s not a reflection on how good the film is.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yes Little Mermaid is posed to have a bigger cultural impact then any of the other live action remskes

It’s gonna have next to zero.
You know how much mermaid merch I saw stacked this past weekend not being touched?

Just a point of interest. Spider-Man is getting good reviews. It’s not the same demo as Mermaid and has a much smaller budget so it will be interesting to see what comes out on top this weekend.

It’s gonna win the weekend and I bet by a lot.

I think mermaid is gonna be hard pressed to make the $600 range…unless more people are into the summer movie going than the previous few

 

[LittleBuford]

fair enough. I'd still consider the film a blockbuster, though. It's not doing that poorly

I agree it's not doing poorly, but for me, a blockbuster is a film that's both lavishly produced and that does exceptionally well at the box office.

 

[DKampy]

It looks like it’s gonna be viewed as “solid” but not really a “success”…

That’s very on brand with Disney releases as of late…notably the last few marvels EXCEPT GOTG3…

And what’s different about that? It’s a well written and acted story!!!

The “formula” has never changed. You can make good movies and benefit longterm…or crap like these remakes and fast and the furious and try to make a billion in $11 days at high cost.

Seems rather binary

How about you wait until the 2nd weekend until proclaiming how this is doing at the box office… I recall people of one side proclaiming Guardians was a disappointment at the box office after it’s opening weekend

 

[Disstevefan1]

How many weeks will it be in theaters before goes to D+ does anyone know?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

How about you wait until the 2nd weekend until proclaiming how this is doing at the box office… I recall people of one side proclaiming Guardians was a disappointment at the box office after it’s opening weekend

I recall seeing guardians on the first weekend and knowing right away it would have legs because it was a good movie that had an appropriate level of emotion to it.

So you don’t recall “me” saying that.

Mermaid is gonna lose the domestic this weekend…but may have a decent early summer run.

This was Memorial Day…not February. It’s first week was good…but not spectacular. It’s got a hill to climb now.

 

[CinematicFusion]

However you put it, the point is it’s not a reflection on how good the film is.

It's all about the stock now for Disney. It has tanked to mid 80s. 120 point loss from the top. Mermaid, Indy must be successful.
I don't like the early numbers of attendance with Mermaid. Not looking good so far with Spiderman coming out soon.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It's all about the stock now for Disney. It has tanked to mid 80s. 120 point loss from the top. Mermaid, Indy must be successful.
I don't like the early numbers of attendance with Mermaid. Not looking good so far with Spiderman coming out soon.

Not sure about mermaid

Indy is doa

It looks awful in trailers and they already let it get reviewed and it’s in the “kill zone”

 

[DKampy]

I recall seeing guardians on the first weekend and knowing right away it would have legs because it was a good movie that had an appropriate level of emotion to it.

So you don’t recall “me” saying that.

Mermaid is gonna lose the domestic this weekend…but may have a decent early summer run.

This was Memorial Day…not February. Its first week was good…but not spectacular. It’s got a hill to climb now.

Then you must of seen The Little Mermaid too… since that is your metric

 

[CinematicFusion]

Not sure about mermaid

Indy is doa

It looks awful in trailers and they already let it get reviewed and it’s in the “kill zone”

I hate that... no reason Indy should be terrible.
Mermaid was average, critic score is correct at 68%.
one full month of bad reviews for Indiana Jones... interesting to see how that effects box office.
Sitting currently at 49%

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I hate that... no reason Indy should be terrible.
Mermaid was average, critic score is correct at 68%.
one full month of bad reviews for Indiana Jones... interesting to see how that effects box office.
Sitting currently at 49%

Not to be dramatic…but Disney sure likes to abuse my favorite movie franchises…

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Then you must of seen The Little Mermaid too… since that is your metric

It’s a straight up remake of a cartoon with LMM inserted into it sideways…

I’m well aware - as is the rest of the planet - of that “formula”

Don’t be a mouthpiece. Just look at the returns.
It didn’t start off great…BUT can do well if it pulls in that girl demographic over the next few weeks into a summer without a lot of big releases.

 

[TalkingHead]

I didn't find the film overlong. My favourite parts were those that fleshed out Ariel and Eric's relationship, which is where those extra minutes came from.

That’s fine but from the budget POV, the longer run time isn’t producing additional return on investment. You would’ve been in the theater if this was 110m.

 

[LittleBuford]

That’s fine but from the budget POV, the longer run time isn’t producing additional return on investment. You would’ve been in the theater if this was 110m.

I’m posting here as a fan of the movie. The budget or box-office take don’t concern me.

 

[LittleBuford]

It’s a straight up remake of a cartoon with LMM inserted into it sideways…

I’m well aware - as is the rest of the planet - of that “formula”

Don’t be a mouthpiece. Just look at the returns.
It didn’t start off great…BUT can do well if it pulls in that girl demographic over the next few weeks into a summer without a lot of big releases.

So you haven’t seen the film then. It’s interesting you feel you can speak with such certainty about its quality given that you have no firsthand knowledge of it.

 

[erasure fan1]

If only the criticisms were about the film! That would be a discussion worth engaging in, and one actually related to the topic of the thread. It's the generalised griping and gleeful rooting for failure that my "faction" finds tiresome.

I use the word faction because that's what it has become. One side against the other. If you object to the remakes for any reason, the honor brigade jumps in and immediately rejects everything even when it makes sense. I said I think if the movie were to lose money, that would be a failure. I was then shouted down by the usual people telling me my opinion was wrong. And that's what my faction finds tiresome.

 

[DKampy]

It’s a straight up remake of a cartoon with LMM inserted into it sideways…

I’m well aware - as is the rest of the planet - of that “formula”

Don’t be a mouthpiece. Just look at the returns.
It didn’t start off great…BUT can do well if it pulls in that girl demographic over the next few weeks into a summer without a lot of big releases.

Don’t really see it as a completely straight remake… they added depth and fleshed out the story more than any of the other remakes… plus it does have an A cinemascore and great word of mouth

I also disagree with you… it is a very crowded summer… it is the one reason I am not completely comfortable with how it will perform, but I think most other movies released next month could face similar problems… one thing going for it is the slightly different demo this film is going for

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Don’t really see it as a completely straight remake… they added depth and fleshed out the story more than any of the other remakes… plus it does have an A cinemascore and great word of mouth

Does she meet the prince, defy her father and make a deal with a witch?

I also disagree with you… it is a very crowded summer… it is the one reason I am not completely comfortable with how it will perform, but I think most other movies released next month could face similar problems… one thing going for it is the slightly different demo this film is going for

Doesn’t look like a lot of competition for the target demographics?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So you haven’t seen the film then. It’s interesting you feel you can speak with such certainty about its quality given that you have no firsthand knowledge of it.

I don’t recall saying one word about quality?

Please requote me

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I use the word faction because that's what it has become. One side against the other. If you object to the remakes for any reason, the honor brigade jumps in and immediately rejects everything even when it makes sense. I said I think if the movie were to lose money, that would be a failure. I was then shouted down by the usual people telling me my opinion was wrong. And that's what my faction finds tiresome.

My favorite thing about gatekeepers is how they attempt to claim it is all “subjective” to each topic…when the actual message is the same in all cases: I like Disney.

If you point it out…you’ll get “I’m FAR from an apologist…”

Works like a charm