Elemental (Pixar - June 2023)

[BrianLo]

Pixar does kind of need it to be successful. I'm not being doom and gloomy, but they need it for the health of their originals moving forward. They unfortunately have been denied a box office hit for far too long (which is mostly NOT their fault) since Luca, Soul and Turning Red could have very easily done ok in normal times (Onward wasn't really doing that hot leading into the pandemic).

But WDAS is riding high still, in spite of Strange World. I cannot commit which way Elementals will go, but I will die on a hill that Wish will be a hit. That combined with the antecedent Encanto is sufficient to nullify Strange World.

I know Frozen 3 will be fine and very likely Zootopia 2. Toy Story 5 though it's hard to say if there will be collective apathy.

Kind of funny that WDAS has the more assured slate, that really hasn't happened in forever.

 

[DCBaker]

New still from Elemental.

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[DCBaker]

Tickets are now on sale for Elemental.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Tickets are now on sale for Elemental.

Clever of Disney to get this on presale before The Flash goes on presale.

I'll be watching both that weekend either way.

BTW, the majority of sites on the net have been speculating that The Flash presale is likely to be any time from yesterday to tomorrow.

 

[MisterPenguin]

‘Elemental’ Craftspeople On “Exploiting The Elemental Nature” Of Characters & Creating A Collaborative Workflow

'Elemental' production designer Don Shank, VFX supervisor Sanjay Bakshi & animating directors Allison Rutland & Gwen Enderoglu on unique collaboration

deadline.com

 

[Phroobar]

‘Elemental’ Craftspeople On “Exploiting The Elemental Nature” Of Characters & Creating A Collaborative Workflow

'Elemental' production designer Don Shank, VFX supervisor Sanjay Bakshi & animating directors Allison Rutland & Gwen Enderoglu on unique collaboration

deadline.com

That explains why the art style is similar for newer movies.

 

[Ghost93]

Box office tracking has Elemental earning $28-38 million at the domestic box office for opening weekend, one of the lowest for Pixar. I think Disney should seriously consider changing its release date.

https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-r...ne-for-a-strong-fathers-day-juneteenth-frame/

 

[MisterPenguin]

Box office tracking has Elemental earning $28-38 million at the domestic box office for opening weekend, one of the lowest for Pixar. I think Disney should seriously consider changing its release date.

https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-r...ne-for-a-strong-fathers-day-juneteenth-frame/

Well, WBDiscovery is doing their best to help Elemental by not having advanced sales for The Flash yet. Normally, it would have happened this past Monday, like it did for Elemental.

 

[doctornick]

Having Flash and Elemental drop the same day is a bad idea for both movies.

I tend to agree that moving Elemental would have been the wiser choice, but that ship has sailed now since they've started selling tickets.

 

[Phroobar]

Presales are kind of silly. Theaters always give a large number of rooms and times to the new releases. Seating is always reserved now. Who is buying tickets for Elemental for the first showing in fear of them selling out? Ticket sell outs just don't happen anymore. I guess scheduling a movie is kind of nice though.

 

[Tha Realest]

Box office tracking has Elemental earning $28-38 million at the domestic box office for opening weekend, one of the lowest for Pixar. I think Disney should seriously consider changing its release date.

https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-r...ne-for-a-strong-fathers-day-juneteenth-frame/

This is nearing an extinction level event.

 

[TsWade2]

Box office tracking has Elemental earning $28-38 million at the domestic box office for opening weekend, one of the lowest for Pixar. I think Disney should seriously consider changing its release date.

https://www.boxofficepro.com/long-r...ne-for-a-strong-fathers-day-juneteenth-frame/

I hate saying this, but I feel like it's the end of Pixar!

 

[tcool123]

I hate saying this, but I feel like it's the end of Pixar!

It won’t be Walt Disney Animation Studios has been going strong for years and they are littered with disappointing and disastrous returns (Fantasia, Bambi, Alice in Wonderland, Black Cauldron, Rescuers Down Under, the 2000s).

To me it seems more like Disney Is sacrificing this film similar to 2009’s Princess and the Frog which flopped against Avatar and 2011’s Winnie the Pooh which opened against the final Harry Potter.

Whatever film is after Elio will likely be very successful as it’s a sequel - I just can’t remember which.

Presales are kind of silly. Theaters always give a large number of rooms and times to the new releases. Seating is always reserved now. Who is buying tickets for Elemental for the first showing in fear of them selling out? Ticket sell outs just don't happen anymore. I guess scheduling a movie is kind of nice though.

They do happen but not for Elemental or other original films, I feel like the presale sell outs are a bigger deal with franchise films and event films such as Way of Water, Spiderman Far From Home, etc.

 

[TsWade2]

It won’t be Walt Disney Animation Studios has been going strong for years and they are littered with disappointing and disastrous returns (Fantasia, Bambi, Alice in Wonderland, Black Cauldron, Rescuers Down Under, the 2000s).

To me it seems more like Disney Is sacrificing this film similar to 2009’s Princess and the Frog which flopped against Avatar and 2011’s Winnie the Pooh which opened against the final Harry Potter.

Whatever film is after Elio will likely be very successful as it’s a sequel - I just can’t remember which.

And I blame John Lasseter for it for making Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh underperforming at the box office. He's lucky that he's not involved with Elemental.

 

[Ghost93]

Other than Lightyear, I don't think Pixar has had any recent flops. Onward doesn't count since it only had one week before the COVID shutdowns started.

 

[Phroobar]

Whatever film is after Elio will likely be very successful as it’s a sequel - I just can’t remember which.

The Pixar movie after Elio is Inside Out 2. It should do fine.
Elemental and Elio will bite the big one.

 

[dreday3]

Elemental was featured on the morning news this morning so I watched the trailer.

While the story is a tale as old as time, the imagery looks fantastic! I will watch to just see the beautiful colors, the way they portray each element interacting in the physicality of their worlds and the worlds of the other elements.

Overall I think will be joyful and I love, love, love father/daughter stories.

 

[Serpico Jones]

Elemental is tracking to flop with a $40m opening weekend.

Ezra Miller’s ‘The Flash’ and Pixar’s ‘Elemental’ Encounter Box Office Headwinds

Early tracking shows 'The Flash' opening to a soft $70 million at the domestic box office, while 'Elemental' is pacing for just $40 million. The two summer tentpoles open June 16.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Casper Gutman]

Elemental is tracking to flop with a $40m opening weekend.

Ezra Miller’s ‘The Flash’ and Pixar’s ‘Elemental’ Encounter Box Office Headwinds

Early tracking shows 'The Flash' opening to a soft $70 million at the domestic box office, while 'Elemental' is pacing for just $40 million. The two summer tentpoles open June 16.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Disney really hurt Pixar by shoving Soul, Luca, and Turning Red out on streaming. Honestly, it's probably the one mistake for which Chapek bears the full, unmitigated blame. I have no idea how you rebuild the theatrical strength on Pixar originals - and no, it isn't the quality of the production that's an issue here.

 

[Ghost93]

Disney really hurt Pixar by shoving Soul, Luca, and Turning Red out on streaming. Honestly, it's probably the one mistake for which Chapek bears the full, unmitigated blame. I have no idea how you rebuild the theatrical strength on Pixar originals - and no, it isn't the quality of the production that's an issue here.

I could maybe see an excuse for Soul being a one-time COVID exception in 2020. But there were zero valid reasons to send Luca and Turning Red straight to streaming, as both came out after the vaccine was widely available. Turning Red came out three months after Spider-man: No Way Home made almost $2 billion.