The sad thing is, so will that much more of the rest of the park that is already fairly dire of it.
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The sad thing is, so will that much more of the rest of the park that is already fairly dire of it.
Jrb1979
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There is parks out there that are almost as good.
Dollywood, Silver Dollar City, Knott's Berry farm and Cedar Point are in that list.
those are all great parks (havent been to cedar point) but they still dont come close to Disney imo. But I am really looking forward to that new super long coaster coming to Dollywood, looks like a chill not too aggressive and super long flowing coaster
also in terms of great parks, lets add Busch Gardens Va and Hershey Park
JusticeDisney
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I totally agree that those are some great parks.
And Kings Island and IOA.
SplashJacket
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Not caring about the corner of a building peaking through is minor compared to the true massive differences between Six Flags and Disney.
Six Flags parks (that I enjoy visiting) are dirty, poorly maintained, run by incompetent and clueless staff, and have agonizingly abysmal operations. These are issues before you consider ride, food, and show quality. Most Six Flags parks have no more thought put into ride placement than "does this physically fit this space?"
Theming and "the little things" are a spectrum. If Six Flags is 0 and Disney at its best is a 100, this is a 90. The gap between present Disney and Six Flags is insane. The current CEO of Six Flags went as far as to say their parks "became a cheap daycare center for teenagers."
Complaining when Disney starts glossing over the small things is perfectly fine, but the differences between Disney and Six Flags are being greatly understated.
Six Flags parks (that I enjoy visiting) are dirty, poorly maintained, run by incompetent and clueless staff, and have agonizingly abysmal operations. These are issues before you consider ride, food, and show quality. Most Six Flags parks have no more thought put into ride placement than "does this physically fit this space?"
Theming and "the little things" are a spectrum. If Six Flags is 0 and Disney at its best is a 100, this is a 90. The gap between present Disney and Six Flags is insane. The current CEO of Six Flags went as far as to say their parks "became a cheap daycare center for teenagers."
Complaining when Disney starts glossing over the small things is perfectly fine, but the differences between Disney and Six Flags are being greatly understated.
matt9112
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You don’t have to… different strokes for different folks.
lazyboy97o
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Which is exactly as much thought was put into the placement of TRON.
And pretty much everything else you mention is also called unimportant when people take issue with Disney.
yensidtlaw1969
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Anway, back to TRON - it's shocking how much the showbuilding is visble, from both the out of the way spots and also the prime viewing angles of the canopy. You have to be basically right up under it to get a picture of the ride without the show building visible.
Animaniac93-98
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They really needed a whole new design for the building and canopy for this location...but I know why they didn't take the time or money to do so.
Tha Realest
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It’s become apparent with Rat (especially with the Skyliner), GOTG, and now Tron that they don’t care about this sort of thing anymore
Is the Rat building really visible in the park? I dont remember noticing it when I went a while ago. I guess from the Skyliner it def is but thats fine imo, its like seeing the backside of a building on the monorail or Bus.
JusticeDisney
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I think the buildings being discussed in this thread are at least 1 1/2 to 2 3/4 inches too tall. Disney should be ashamed of themselves.
JoeCamel
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That is the point, they don't route the busses down the service road to get to the park, they used to care about that stuff but now it's "good enough" and "that isn't too bad is it?"
James Alucobond
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It would also, relatively speaking, be quite easy to fix. Honestly, the exposed show buildings and backstage views are far more irksome to me than any of the arguably misplaced attractions or underutilized spaces.
yensidtlaw1969
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On the plus side, I've just stumbled on a bunch of concept art for some proposed upgrades around the MK! Clearly these are all marked improvements over how things are now:
yensidtlaw1969
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It used to be that you wouldn't see the backside of a building from the Monorail or Bus.
SplashJacket
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Honestly a very good visualization of the problem (minus HM, that one goes a step too far).
It's a lot easier to disregard something new with "visual deficiencies" than something familiar because we've seen it in its pristine state so many times. So seeing these challenges that notion.
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yensidtlaw1969
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In fairness, the Mansion one was a rendering I did back in the day to illustrate the problem with Cosmic Rewind.
I agree with your second point - and I would add to it that I think some people willing to accept this a little bit more with "futuristic" rides like TRON because "clean lines" are part of the aesthetic, and so a bare, unornamented building is not as far a step from a Tomorrowland aesthetic as it is from the other lands.
I can almost see why someone would be persuaded to believe that it's "part of it". . . But I would argue that's one of the great failings of Disney's recent "futuristic" work. That it lacks an identity totally discernible from an unthemed warehouse is a minus, not a plus, and they shouldn't ever choose to rest on that crutch. Instead they seem very willing to rest on it even for the biggest projects happening in the resort.
SplashJacket
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Honestly though, what the hell? The whole point of the Florida project was infinite space and infinite control. It's not like it adds a tremendous cost to manage these things, it's just lazy design, and in an era where everything is digital, and you can hop into a project with a VR headset, it should be worlds easier to manage these things.
I just cannot wrap my head around the current state of the company. Everything is done at such a tremendously different quality. No consistency between projects. Some things are handled with meticulous detail, while others are seemingly entirely neglected.
Let's compare two different instances of drastically different quality that feature the exact same IP and an identical opening date.
The Star Wars Hyperspace Lounge looks like utter garbage. Barren, sterile, and bland room that resembles an attempted homage to Star Wars without actually being it.
Bland walls with some college dorm lighting. Nothing special, nothing classy, nothing luxurious, only colloquially Star Wars.
Compare this to the Star Wars area in the Kid's club just a couple of hundred feet away:
This is insane! Absolute out-of-the-park home run! Looks like Star Wars, sounds like Star Wars, and tastes like Star Wars. Incredible detail from the floor to the ceiling. Very well done.
This company has the most obtuse quality control measures. They make a masterpiece and make everyone think they have rekindled the magic only to follow it up with the next instance of flaming hot garbage. Their standards are all over the place. I genuinely don't know what's the missing piece. Lack of direction?