What will Disney announce for Disney World at the 2022 D23 expo?

[marni1971]

When it comes down to it (most) people are simple. Give them something they want, after time they tend to forget what you took away. Same thing happens with politics.

(not saying Bob Chapek is going to give anyone what they want)

Yep.

 

[UNCgolf]

Dinosaurs are always cool, and kids love them. There is nothing that will compete with Jurassic Park, or the Camp Cretaceous shows on Netflix at this point though.

This was mentioned somewhere, but I do think Disney has an angle to go for dinosaurs that are more scientifically accurate, which would differentiate them from JP. The JP dinosaurs don't look like real dinosaurs, and are more like movie monsters than anything else at this point.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

He’s done too much damage already.

I'd forgive everything if he brought back Magical Express. I'm a simple man.

 

[fgmnt]

You missed out on absolutely nothing

Ugh…we went there in June…what an absolute was of time

all of the money spent in the studios over the last 6 years and the experience to me is still the same: you have to have incredibly low expectations for your day in the park to have a good time.

 

[lazyboy97o]

This was mentioned somewhere, but I do think Disney has an angle to go for dinosaurs that are more scientifically accurate, which would differentiate them from JP. The JP dinosaurs don't look like real dinosaurs, and are more like movie monsters than anything else at this point.

Every one is so focused on the movie monster angle that they completely miss the aspect of just seeing dinosaurs. A simple family ride that is just seeing the dinosaurs could be an easy win, something like the beginning of Jurassic Park River Adventure. People go see static dinosaur figures set up in gardens and other amusement parks, they’d definitely do a family ride with full size animated figures.

 

[UNCgolf]

Every one is so focused on the movie monster angle that they completely miss the aspect of just seeing dinosaurs. A simple family ride that is just seeing the dinosaurs could be an easy win, something like the beginning of Jurassic Park River Adventure. People go see static dinosaur figures set up in gardens and other amusement parks, they’d definitely do a family ride with full size animated figures.

Definitely. The early part of Jurassic Park River Adventure is part of the reason I think the ride is one of the best at Universal.

There's also a traveling exhibit of animatronic dinosaurs (I think) that does exceptionally well.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

He’s done too much damage already.

In all seriousness, I think Chapek's legacy is far from set in stone. When we look back on this period ten years from now, I think pretty much everything that's happened from 2020 to 2022 is going to be obscured by the COVID-19 fog in our collective memories. I think people are eventually going to come to see 2023 as a clean slate.

 

[marni1971]

In all seriousness, I think Chapek's legacy is far from set in stone. When we look back on this period ten years from now, I think pretty much everything that's happened from 2020 to 2022 is going to be obscured by the COVID-19 fog in our collective memories. I think people are eventually going to come to see 2023 as a clean slate.

He’s a consumer businessman. He’s in over his head.

TWDC was always different and needed someone who understood that at the top.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

TWDC was always different and needed someone who understood that at the top.

Who understands TWDC better than him, factoring in all components? I can think of two, maybe. One is a weapons-grade a-hole and the other is a creative genius who got a little too huggy at the worst time in human history for creative geniuses to be a little too huggy.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Who understands TWDC better than him, factoring in all components? I can think of two, maybe. One is a weapons-grade a-hole and the other is a creative genius who got a little too huggy at the worst time in human history for creative geniuses to be a little too huggy.

He knows merchandising.

Of course, I thought these guys did, as well...

 

[HauntedPirate]

I'm building out a D23 Odds workbook.

Here are some examples:

New Attractions Announcements:

Animal Kingdom	10 to 1
EPCOT	90 to 1
Magic Kingdom	125 to 1
Hollywood Studios	600 to 1

Classics Returning (Announcements) :

Fantasmic! Opening Date	3 to 1
Happily Ever After will return	4 to 1
Enchanted Tales with Belle	60 to 1
Restaurant Reopens (anywhere)	100 to 1
Citizens of Hollywood Return	200 to 1
Citizens of Main Street Return	200 to 1
Villains After Hours returns	200 to 1
Jedi Training Trials	250 to 1
Main Street Electrical Parade at MK	300 to 1
Voyage of the Little Mermaid returns	450 to 1
Paint the Night arrives anywhere	1200 to 1

Much much more, where you sticking your $10 bet?

At 300-1, I'd drop $100 on MSEP returning to MK. That would pay for a couple of great cruises... on RC or NCL.

 

[doctornick]

While I agree that Pandora needs a 3rd ride, I think Dinoland is next for an update. The whole Dinorama carnival needs to go. Maybe they could make an omnimover dark ride that would function like a Dino-Safari. Taking you from pen to pen of different dinosaurs. We lost that with the death of Universe of Energy.

 

[doctornick]

In all seriousness, I think Chapek's legacy is far from set in stone. When we look back on this period ten years from now, I think pretty much everything that's happened from 2020 to 2022 is going to be obscured by the COVID-19 fog in our collective memories. I think people are eventually going to come to see 2023 as a clean slate.

It's hard to shake a first impression and pretty much everything Chapek has done related to the parks - started from when he was in his previous role - is generally disliked. So, he's trying to climb out of a big hole.

That said, I would agree that if he goes splashy and actually builds a bunch of stuff that is popular, it would go a long way to rehabilitating his image among a good segment of the parks fans. I think people would be willing to give him a pass for the pandemic timeframe if the parks improve significantly in upcoming years.

I'm not holding my breath though.

 

[Jrb1979]

In all seriousness, I think Chapek's legacy is far from set in stone. When we look back on this period ten years from now, I think pretty much everything that's happened from 2020 to 2022 is going to be obscured by the COVID-19 fog in our collective memories. I think people are eventually going to come to see 2023 as a clean slate.

A lot of what they have done is things they have always wanted to do. Splashy new attractions isn't going to make Genie+, getting rid of Magic Express, the treatment of AP holders and the reservation system be forgotten about.

 

[doctornick]

A lot of what they have done is things they have always wanted to do. Splashy new attractions isn't going to make Genie+, getting rid of Magic Express, the treatment of AP holders and the reservation system be forgotten about.

If they actually expanding ride capacity at WDW to make Genie+ more user friendly and valuable, I think it would help to softening the hatred of it.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

It's hard to shake a first impression and pretty much everything Chapek has done related to the parks - started from when he was in his previous role - is generally disliked. So, he's trying to climb out of a big hole.

That said, I would agree that if he goes splashy and actually builds a bunch of stuff that is popular, it would go a long way to rehabilitating his image among a good segment of the parks fans. I think people would be willing to give him a pass for the pandemic timeframe if the parks improve significantly in upcoming years.

I'm not holding my breath though.

My gut tells me we're heading to the land of cool new awesome stuff... with accompanying insane pricing (and pricing schemes).

 

[Jrb1979]

If they actually expanding ride capacity at WDW to make Genie+ more user friendly and valuable, I think it would help to softening the hatred of it.

I'm doubtful as the amount of new attractions needed is more then what will most likely be coming.

 

[DCLcruiser]

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Why not both a carnival in a parking lot, and a new dark ride? Well, space is one. Two, the carnival thing is tacky (but well executed with parking lot lines etc) and blurs the lines between Six Flags and WDW. It needs to go.

 

[doctornick]

Why not both a carnival in a parking lot, and a new dark ride? Well, space is one. Two, the carnival thing is tacky (but well executed with parking lot lines etc) and blurs the lines between Six Flags and WDW. It needs to go.

No why not a Dinoland expansion/dinorama replacement and also a Pandora expansion

 

[DCLcruiser]

No why not a Dinoland expansion/dinorama replacement and also a Pandora expansion

Oh, sure, do it all. But if I could only upgrade one section of DAK at this year's D23, I would hope for Dinoland.