News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[Ghost93]

That doesn't seem to be the case. According to The Numbers, SotS was the top grossing movie of 1946 with $49M grossed when adjusted for inflation. That's twice as much as the second grossing movie, Notorious.

That list from the Numbers is accounting for multiple releases of all movies released in 1946. Notorious only got $24.4 million after being released numerous times. In its initial theatrical run, Alfred Hitchcock's Notorious only made $4.85 million. That's still a lot of money for 1946 which was a lot for the time, but nowhere near $24.4 million.

The highest-grossing of 1946 upon initial release was the Best Years of Our Lives, which made $10.2 million (it's also a great movie that still holds up today, so I highly recommend it). SOTS is overall the highest-grossing movie of 1946 due to very popular and successful re-releases in the 70s and 80s.

I believe Snow White and the Seven Dwarves and Mary Poppins were the only movies released during Walt Disney's lifetime that were number one at the box office in the year they were released. Most of the animated classics of Walt's lifetime were either modest hits or outright flops that grew in stature and appreciation over time.

 

[Dear Prudence]

Very interesting take on The Princess and the Frog from a black perspective, that acknowledges that while PoC may enjoy the movie and find meaning in its representation, this particular movie could have done a better job telling its story and give greater significance to its black characters. It's why I think Disney relying so heavily on this one movie to prove they support black inclusion in their media/products could hurt them in the long term. TPatF is already over 10 years old and we've seen how other media that was considered groundbreaking or good enough in the late 2000s may not hold up to scrutiny now or in the future.

Skip to 8:30 and watch for about 20 min:

This person is Notorious for her incredibly nuanced and informed analysis. Happy to see this video shared here, even if I don't watch her channel anymore.

Cue the usual suspects who can't hear or read anything untoward about either of these films commenting

Speaking of comments, one of the comments on this video points out that Big Daddy and Charlotte could have EASILY helped her get her restaurant. Also no one ever seems to want to talk about how Big Daddy even got his money...being the Sugar King...which would have probably have been...plantation money. But people who critique this film have "never seen it"

 

[Dear Prudence]

That list from the Numbers is accounting for multiple releases of all movies released in 1946. Notorious only got $24.4 million after being released numerous times. In its initial theatrical run, Alfred Hitchcock's Notorious only made $4.85 million. That's still a lot of money for 1946 which was a lot for the time, but nowhere near $24.4 million.

The highest-grossing of 1946 upon initial release was the Best Years of Our Lives, which made $10.2 million (it's also a great movie that still holds up today, so I highly recommend it). SOTS is overall the highest-grossing movie of 1946 due to very popular and successful re-releases in the 70s and 80s.

I believe Snow White and the Seven Dwarves and Mary Poppins were the only movies released during Walt Disney's lifetime that were number one at the box office in the year they were released. Most of the animated classics of Walt's lifetime were either modest hits or outright flops that grew in stature and appreciation over time.

I don't know what Numbers is, but I was citing a Casablanca special anniversary release that talked about how movies would come out once a week and Casablanca was just another one of those movies they didn't think was going to make the impact it did, and then went onto talk about how the war effected the film industry before and after WWII. SOTS being the number one movie that year isn't surprising or remarkable considering the other films released that year were bland at best. It's a Wonderful Life had an LA premiere in December, but a wider release in 1947, the same as Miracle on 34th Street (which was released in July or something like that?!)

 

[Ghost93]

I don't know what Numbers is, but I was citing a Casablanca special anniversary release that talked about how movies would come out once a week and Casablanca was just another one of those movies they didn't think was going to make the impact it did, and then went onto talk about how the war effected the film industry before and after WWII. SOTS being the number one movie that year isn't surprising or remarkable considering the other films released that year were bland at best. It's a Wonderful Life had an LA premiere in December, but a wider release in 1947, the same as Miracle on 34th Street (which was released in July or something like that?!)

I don't know why Miracle on 34th Street was released in the summer instead of Christmas or Thanksgiving time. I also don't know why Song of the South won an Oscar in 1948 when the movie came out in 1946.

It was a mistake for It's a Wonderful Life to not open in wide release in December as it's a Christmas movie. No wonder it flopped upon release. It's A Wonderful Life didn't really become the sensation it is until it hit TV. Tv reruns have elevated a lot of unseen gems into genuine classics. It's a shame in the streaming era where everyone's attention is divided that movies are unlikely to get that "second chance" at a new life if they flop in theaters.

 

[TikibirdLand]

That list from the Numbers is accounting for multiple releases of all movies released in 1946. Notorious only got $24.4 million after being released numerous times. In its initial theatrical run, Alfred Hitchcock's Notorious only made $4.85 million. That's still a lot of money for 1946 which was a lot for the time, but nowhere near $24.4 million.

The highest-grossing of 1946 upon initial release was the Best Years of Our Lives, which made $10.2 million (it's also a great movie that still holds up today, so I highly recommend it). SOTS is overall the highest-grossing movie of 1946 due to very popular and successful re-releases in the 70s and 80s.

I believe Snow White and the Seven Dwarves and Mary Poppins were the only movies released during Walt Disney's lifetime that were number one at the box office in the year they were released. Most of the animated classics of Walt's lifetime were either modest hits or outright flops that grew in stature and appreciation over time.

Can you help with a link that references the "numerous times". I'm not finding it. But, could be bad search foo

 

[Model3 McQueen]

I'm late to the party. Is anyone talking about the second log sinking on splash mountain?

 

[Midwest Elitist]

I'm late to the party. Is anyone talking about the second log sinking on splash mountain?

Not really. It's an incredibly unreliable log flume ride. Happened in Disneyland too, and they actually had the time (and did) to refurbish it.

 

[celluloid]

I'm late to the party. Is anyone talking about the second log sinking on splash mountain?

That would still happen if the ride theme was changed, it would just not be a problematic safety concern.

 

[Midwest Elitist]

That would still happen if the ride theme was changed, it would just not be a problematic safety concern.

Let's be honest here: it's the Br'er Rabbit carve out that is the cause of this!

 

[Ghost93]

I'm late to the party. Is anyone talking about the second log sinking on splash mountain?

When Disney says it wants to "immerse" guests in its rides, I didn't know the company was being so literal!!

 

[Animaniac93-98]

It's A Wonderful Life didn't really become the sensation it is until it hit TV. Tv reruns have elevated a lot of unseen gems into genuine classics.

Hocus Pocus would be the prime Disney example of this. Millennials were raised on regular Halloween season broadcasts.

 

[Dear Prudence]

Let's be honest here: it's the Br'er Rabbit carve out that is the cause of this!

Every since they tool out the lil bronze statue of him, the whole park has gone cattywampus. Now, I am NOOOOOTT implying that Brer Rabbit is taking his power back as an African and Native God and this is all Brer Rabbit's Revenge, but, like,....*gestures broadly*

 

[Dear Prudence]

Hocus Pocus would be the prime Disney example of this. Millennials were raised on regular Halloween season broadcasts.

See, I LOVED the movie when it came out and watched the VHS obsessively as a child and now I am sick of it because of the annoying nostalgia branding push

 

[Bocabear]

OMG a Hocus Pocus overlay for Splash!!...lol

 

[G00fyDad]

Any word yet on when or even IF they are still doing this retheme? I have been watching for closures during our trip in October.

 

[Ghost93]

Any word yet on when or even IF they are still doing this retheme? I have been watching for closures during our trip in October.

I expect the permanent closure of the original Splash Mountain will occur sometime in 2023. They want it open during the 50th-anniversary celebration.

 

[EagleScout610]

Any word yet on when or even IF they are still doing this retheme? I have been watching for closures during our trip in October.

It's most likely they will, but it's the when that nobody knows

 

[G00fyDad]

Again, as long as it is not closed when we go in October I will be pleased.

 

[Ghost93]

Again, you keep saying this but there's no proof Disney wanted nor cared about getting rid of SOTS until after 2019.

I never said they wanted nor cared about getting rid of SOTS before 2019. The PatF retheme was sort of a concept they had floating around as an eventual possibility, but it wasn't until the George Floyd protests and Twitter getting mad about the Song of the South theme that Disney made the announcement.

 

[EagleScout610]

Again, you keep saying this but there's no proof Disney wanted nor cared about getting rid of SOTS until after 2019.

Allow me to play devil advocate for a moment but I think it's possible that's 2019 was when the idea got past the "Oh that costs too much" filter and into the "Maybe someday" category but then got rushed out waaaayy too early (As in I believe we were supposed to either 1st hear it this year or next) because of 2020 in general.