News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[Californian Elitist]

Elizabeth Hurley and everyone else with that attitude can pound sand.

I've always been gangly looking...super long limbs (especially my arms), but with a tummy (much more round than Marilyn's) and thick thighs (I rode horses for years when I was young, so my thighs were always thick and strong). Menopause and working behind a desk for years has not been kind to me though...I've lost a lot of weight and muscle to the point where I'm WAY too thin and bony-looking (I'm not exaggerating). My adopted mother asked recently if I have an eating disorder (I don't), and I want to cover up no matter how hot it is (which really sucks because I love being outside in the summer). And yes, a bunch of it is definitely DNA - my birth father is a 6'4" skinny bean-pole while I'm only 5'5" and until recently looked much more like my birth mom, who was 5'3" and curvy like Marilyn (minus the chest).

Things that bother me about Hollywood, fashion and advertising - oh! and let's not forget social media filters and music videos:

• They push a standard that they KNOW is unattainable and continue the airbrushing of what are arguably already beautiful women to make them appear thinner and younger even after being called out for these actions
• Most people can't afford the personal trainer, nutritionist, etc. that help celebrities maintain their shape
• Most people can't afford a stylist and make-up artist to make them look a certain way every day
• They further poor self-esteem and body image in generation after generation of girls and women
• The industries themselves are often cruel to the models they employ...starvation diets, drugs, huge amounts of pressure, etc.
• How many men have left their wives for a younger, more "beautiful" woman? (I realize this is on the men, but let's not contribute to the issue by maintaining beauty standards that tell the world that weighing more than a certain amount or being older than a certain age is no longer beautiful)
• How much emotional distress, eating disorders, and other mental health issues could be avoided if society (as a whole) prioritized health and being comfortable in one's own skin instead of a particular body shape?
• Does the fashion industry even design clothes to fit real bodies anymore? (Serious question...I can't remember the last time I was able to buy jeans that fit my waist but are long enough in the torso and leg, or if they fit my legs and torso, they're way too tight in the waist)
• Who the hell wants to curl up to a bag of bones at night?

As you can tell, this is an issue that strikes close to home for me. My younger sister struggled with her weight for most of her life (until around her mid-30s...she wasn't just overweight, she was obese and headed towards being morbidly so), and married her first boyfriend (she met him in college and holy hell was that a disaster-and-a-half...she even underwent surgery in an attempt to please him...he lied about everything under the sun and cheated on her) and as a result of her issues she still makes bad choices when it comes to people based on shallow factors.

Preach. I started feeling upset every time I opened up my Instagram feed and I didn’t realize why until a couple of months ago: 99% of the celebrities/influencers I followed were making me feel bad/insecure about myself. It wasn’t just the body images they were portraying that were affecting me, but their lifestyles in general. Traveling here and there, eating the best foods, having makeup artists on hand to ensure a beautiful face for the day, riding in expensive cars, etc. I’ve since unfollowed almost all influencer types (there are few exceptions, like Zendaya and the love of my life, Jeff Goldblum) and I feel much better.

 

[GoneForGood]

Found these on Instagram. Smiled like a little child the whole time.
(Not from any official project, I think these were made for an independent class thing.)

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Preach. I started feeling upset every time I opened up my Instagram feed and I didn’t realize why until a couple of months ago: 99% of the celebrities/influencers I followed were making me feel bad/insecure about myself. It wasn’t just the body images they were portraying that were affecting me, but their lifestyles in general. Traveling here and there, eating the best foods, having makeup artists on hand to ensure a beautiful face for the day, riding in expensive cars, etc. I’ve since unfollowed almost all influencer types (there are few exceptions, like Zendaya and the love of my life, Jeff Goldblum) and I feel much better.

RIGHT?!? Similar happened to me when my boys were small. Nothing I was doing as a mom or a woman was right. Staying home to care for them wasn't right. Putting them in day care so I could work wasn't right. Vaccinating them caused their autism (yes, someone literally said that to me once). My house wasn't new enough or spotless enough. My clothes sucked. I didn't lose 75lbs gained during pregnancy fast enough (it took more than 5 years). I didn't wear enough makeup. We didn't do enough "mommy and me" type activities (). I wasn't in the PTA (because who needs those snobby b*tches). It was BAD and I got really, really depressed.

The whole "influencer" thing makes me gag. I don't need someone telling me what I need to be happy. Most celebrities suck, too. The only ones I follow are either super funny, or super humble and real, or super interesting (hello, Jeff Goldblum! LOL!)

 

[Californian Elitist]

RIGHT?!? Similar happened to me when my boys were small. Nothing I was doing as a mom or a woman was right. Staying home to care for them wasn't right. Putting them in day care so I could work wasn't right. Vaccinating them caused their autism (yes, someone literally said that to me once). My house wasn't new enough or spotless enough. My clothes sucked. I didn't lose 75lbs gained during pregnancy fast enough (it took more than 5 years). I didn't wear enough makeup. We didn't do enough "mommy and me" type activities (). I wasn't in the PTA (because who needs those snobby b*tches). It was BAD and I got really, really depressed.

The whole "influencer" thing makes me gag. I don't need someone telling me what I need to be happy. Most celebrities suck, too. The only ones I follow are either super funny, or super humble and real, or super interesting (hello, Jeff Goldblum! LOL!)

It’s NEVER enough! I’m not a mother yet, but I can only imagine what it would be like in this society, trying to do your best, all while others seem to be doing the job better and/or criticizing you for not doing enough. Imagine following a bunch of mommy bloggers while trying to parent? I’m childless, but even the few mommy bloggers I followed were making social media nearly unbearable for me. They got unfollowed as well lol.

Whoever made that autism comment about your children is shameful. I’m sorry you experienced that. Ignorant nonsense. And yes, the toxic positivity is gag-worthy. Celebrities really do suck. I had this conversation with my sister about a month ago. We’re tired of celebrities. Social media makes it easier for us to be in their lives a lot more, if we allow ourselves to, and that’s the problem. They’re everywhere.

Jeff is NEVER getting unfollowed! That’s one celebrity that I refuse to let go of. His posts don’t make me feel like crap. And he’s handsome. No need to unfollow lol.

Okay, back to the “woke mob” ruining Splash Mountain discussion.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Apparently Elizabeth Hurley said that she would kill herself if she was “as fat as Marilyn Monroe.” There seems to be no universal standard for an acceptable/attractive body type.

I’m what many consider to be “thick,” though plenty of people, Elizabeth Hurley included, it seems, would consider me “fat.” I could stand to lose some weight, sure, but I will never have skinny thighs and a small chest. DNA says hell no. If that makes me fat, then so be it. Some people admire it, some don’t.

Excuse the mess in the photo, I’m currently re-arranging my house.

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Dibs on two cases of water.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Dibs on two cases of water.

Take them! Not sure why we keep buying them when we have a water dispenser.

 

[Incomudro]

First of all, you were flat out incorrect about people throughout history.

Fatness and Thinness in the Middle Ages

What did medieval people, living in a preindustrial time of food scarcity, think about fatness and thinness?

www.medievalists.net

Second of all, Marilyn Monroe - undeniably one of the most beautiful women to ever have lived - was a girl with very healthy-looking curves. She was not a waif-thin model of the sort we see today, and she definitely didn't resemble any of the Disney princesses, with their corset-sized waists and exaggerated hips. She's got a bit of a tummy, and has thicker arms and thighs than would be acceptable by today's standards (which I really think looks unhealthy and frail).

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Marilyn's physique varied with her age.
She was very thin when she was a teenager.
And the Disney Princesses are likely teenagers - maybe very early twenties.
Why would animators from half a century ago draw them zaftig?
To appease people in the year 2022?
This image is often used to exaggerate her physique as if to illustrate that this was a norm, and her norm.
It wasn't.

 

[ImperfectPixie]

Marilyn's physique varied with her age.
She was very thin when she was a teenager.
And the Disney Princesses are likely teenagers - maybe very early twenties.
Why would animators from half a century ago draw them zaftig?
To appease people in the year 2022?
This image is often used to exaggerate her physique as if to illustrate that this was a norm, and her norm.
It wasn't.

Just knock it off.

 

[celluloid]

It is all really about animation anyway.

Round in drawing media is sceen as friendly and soft. Pointy lines and angles are typically villainous. Nothing personal or time period about it.

Coachman from Pinocchio is an easy example of this.

After it is revealed he is slave driving them as mules.

 

[MisterPenguin]

My takeaway: Pooh will rethemed to a thinner, healthier IP.

 

[celluloid]

My takeaway: Pooh will rethemed to a thinner, healthier IP.

From half portions and twice the price, he should thank the company.

 

[No Name]

Take up the fight with Illumination instead… Gru has clearly been skipping leg day.

 

[Dear Prudence]

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They wouldn't just clone the Belle AAs and reskin them...right?

God I hope not. Tiana deserves better

 

[Dear Prudence]

I like the character and I think Jess Harnell does a great job especially since the ride was was his first major work in voice acting.

Johnny Lee was the best, though. I wish he had gotten to do it more. He was such a brilliant actor and singer.

 

[Kirby86]

Johnny Lee was the best, though. I wish he had gotten to do it more. He was such a brilliant actor and singer.

Honestly all three voice actors of Brer Rabbit were good. James Basket filled in for the Laughing Place segment and I think I watched that segment the most. The three main voice actors from Song of the South were all great.

 

[Dear Prudence]

Honestly all three voice actors of Brer Rabbit were good. James Basket filled in for the Laughing Place segment and I think I watched that segment the most. The three main voice actors from Song of the South were all great.

I've often wondered just where in the Laughing Place segment Baskett had filled in, because if you listen to the Uncle Remus Record, Johnny Lee sounds EXACTLY the same. I wonder if it was 50/50 or not a complete cover for the whole section. There are a few instances where you can tell it was Baskett, but others where you know/can tell it's Johnny Lee. I wish a lot of things, but I really wish they had made the cartoon series with the Brers. I know there were other segments planned for SOTS (with even songs written for them), and I hope one day, if recordings or demos of those exist, they get released in some way. Even if he hadn't been able to supply the voice for Brer Rabbit anymore the way Nick Stewart had, I wish that he would have at least lived to see Splash Mountain.

All three of the actors were really, really good friends in real life, and had done Broadway and radio together. Stewart and Lee remained friends for the rest of Lee's life, and they wrote all-Black musicals and plays together that were performed in Los Angeles. Alan Young was also a friend of theirs and wrote a lot of sketches with them. Somewhere out in the universe, I hope there are photos of them together, and I hope wherever they are out the in the universe, they're having a blast.

 

[Kirby86]

I've often wondered just where in the Laughing Place segment Baskett had filled in, because if you listen to the Uncle Remus Record, Johnny Lee sounds EXACTLY the same. I wonder if it was 50/50 or not a complete cover for the whole section. There are a few instances where you can tell it was Baskett, but others where you know/can tell it's Johnny Lee. I wish a lot of things, but I really wish they had made the cartoon series with the Brers. I know there were other segments planned for SOTS (with even songs written for them), and I hope one day, if recordings or demos of those exist, they get released in some way. Even if he hadn't been able to supply the voice for Brer Rabbit anymore the way Nick Stewart had, I wish that he would have at least lived to see Splash Mountain.

All three of the actors were really, really good friends in real life, and had done Broadway and radio together. Stewart and Lee remained friends for the rest of Lee's life, and they wrote all-Black musicals and plays together that were performed in Los Angeles. Alan Young was also a friend of theirs and wrote a lot of sketches with them. Somewhere out in the universe, I hope there are photos of them together, and I hope wherever they are out the in the universe, they're having a blast.

I don't know how true this is but I remember reading that originally the plan was to have shorts with the Brers after Song of The South but the reception and controversy made them back off from that idea. Which in my opinion is a shame because the animated sections are great and some of Disney's best.

I believe that if these characters weren't tied to Song of the South and the live action segments which are what most of the complaints are about. While having a good amount of fully animated shorts no one would be complaining about the Brer themed Splash Mountain. Also voice actors would have been getting paid to voice characters that I truly think they liked.

 

[MisterPenguin]

just came across this, have no idea who this guy is or if he's credible but he claims to have "sources"

He doesn't tell us what his sources have been right about in the past in order to judge it. We've often heard people on these boards who heard ""reliable info"" from a friend or CM, who got their source from insiders on these boards. It's the circle of rumors. That makes those sources look like they have inside info... until it's clear they don't.

The rest of the guy's video is the same "Surely, they wouldn't..." arguments totally discounting just how imperative the "surely they would..." counterargument is.

Plus, the airing of unrelated grievances.

Not to mention he's not a DL blogger and the video is a month old and no one else who has actual reliable sources have confirmed this thus far.

 

[Dear Prudence]

He doesn't tell us what his sources have been right about in the past in order to judge it. We've often heard people on these boards who heard ""reliable info"" from a friend or CM, who got their source from insiders on these boards. It's the circle of rumors. That makes those sources look like they have inside info... until it's clear they don't.

The rest of the guy's video is the same "Surely, they wouldn't..." arguments totally discounting just how imperative the "surely they would..." counterargument is.

Plus, the airing of unrelated grievances.

Not to mention he's not a DL blogger and the video is a month old and no one else who has actual reliable sources have confirmed this thus far.

plus, the Clockwork Orange poster in the background is always a red flag

 

[Disney Glimpses]

The re-theme of Splash Mountain is going to happen. It's already happening. There is no stopping this train.