We could have had more vaccinated making the impact minimal. I'm sorry but we're nearby 2 years in and I'm so sick of people finding excuses not to try. I'll keep on masking and doing my part. Many won't dream of saying the same. My state has 55% fully vaccinated. That's crap.
NYC is breaking records. Ontario is breaking records.
What makes you think that? Even here people still aren't bothering
There are plenty of highly vaccinated places that show otherwise. When it comes to transmission, omicron is a punk. Now keeping more people out of the hospital, yep, a higher vaccination rate should help.
While true, having vaccine passports got more people to get vaccinated. It did what they wanted it to do.
This is still a pandemic of the unvaccinated, severe cases among the vaccinated are up slightly but if you’re vaccinated you’ve done your part and you’re still sitting pretty. Current data for NY, blue is unvaccinated, red is vaccinated. Pretty clear what works, and people have had almost a year to make their choice.
You might have missed about the sepsis but that is exactly the issue at hand. It also will be a bit harder to spread as uvaccinated stay contagious longer and even still less likely to get it in the first place. I really do not care about asymptotic at this point either so quoting NHL stats mean little to me. All this continues at crap rates because we have crap vaccination.
Both the vaccinated and unvaccinated can catch COVID.
That’s a good point. Which is why I’m not against statewide vaccine mandates. But it’s still not good enough to prevent significant spread. And hospital capacity is still a concern in Canada, hence the further restrictions. And we have the rest of the world to consider.
For sure. I’m boosted for a reason. I got my 8 year old vaccinated for a reason. The data is clear, whether we get the virus or not.
That red line is super telling. It’s a small percentage of the blue one. Which means the higher the blue line, the higher it drags the red line up. Find a way to lower the blue line and the red one becomes a small percentage of a much smaller starting number. Get the blue one low enough, and the red one will effectively disappear.
I back vaccines. Always have. But to assume it wouldn’t continue because of local crap vaccinations rates when countries with much much higher vaccination rates are still dealing with omicron at significant levels seems a bit off. There are just still too many not vaccinated even in places where we would consider great rates. I don’t see this pandemic ending due to the vaccine at this point. But I hope it will keep as many people out of the hospital as possible
Did this occur in South Africa at all?
How long the pandemic will be ending soon?
Looks like game over for us.
Sorry I was meaning as a whole - referencing my state and the country. Eventually we'll burn through enough. I'm just grumpy today.
What are you talking about? Hospitalizations are going up dramatically here. I have a feel next week will be one of the worst weeks we will have seen in this pandemic since tools became available to do the right thing.
I had alpha, I don't want omicron no matter how "mild" it is.
In the evidence we have seen so far worldwide, the ratio of cases to hospitalizations is not as dramatic with omicron as with delta. Data is showing it isn’t as severe. Here is where the US sits right now…the question is going to be will the sheer number of cases cause hospitalizations to surpass previous waves.