peter11435
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They’ve never denied it’s existence. I’m baffled that you think it wouldn’t be included. Everything that has any demand is part of Genie+
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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure
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Do you think profiting off of the attraction with characters through the gate and paying to skip the line for that attraction is somehow more morally acceptable than profiting off of them on t shirts? Which by the way, is more about the select restocking options of the times than it is about a statement. You can't even find as many niche attraction shirts in other shops now either.
peter11435
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I would maybe agree if Splash Mountain were one of the individual purchase attractions, but it’s not. Including it in Genie+ Is no different than the attraction just be open to park guests. Merchandise diecisions are deliberate.
So your stance would be yes. It is morally higher to make money off of a ride's characters via the ride vs off it's merch?
Brers are being sold on items at the theme parks on merch now.
FantasiaMickey2000
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I just replied to you on this. No they aren’t. Brer Bear snuck onto one design. That’s it. All Splash Mountain merchandise has been removed and is no longer being sold. One oversight design is an exception not a rule.
Dear Prudence
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Brer Bear was also included in a pin pack.
Not true. Disneyland is selling the artwork of all three characters in the park as well as the fact they are on other random trinkets.
Splash Mountain Merchandise was not pulled. It was SOLD.
It is even hard to find a Space Mountain or Thunder Mountain shirt right now. There is only two designs specifically for Space Mountain in the ride's gift shop a few weeks ago, and that is the most famous rollercoater in the world.
Regardless of all that. The philosophy of making money on something that apparently executive level thinks it should not is interesting and certifiably false with the evidence. As even though merch is slim, they are accepting money on it and they are operating the attraction and accepting money through admission, on ride photos, selling things in the gift shop and it being a part of Genie Plus.
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FantasiaMickey2000
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What artwork is Disneyland selling? I looked at Disney Springs in Florida and there is none there. The gift shops in Florida around the ride are empty of Splash merchandise as well.
Splash Mountain merchandise was sold out but it’s not being replaced. They haven’t had merchandise there in 17 months. If they were still planning on making money off the ride, they’d have received a shipment by now.
So it sounds like your complaint is they sold the remaining inventory of merchandise and haven’t closed the ride and just kept it shut down? You would have preferred they burn all the merchandise and just have the ride sit vacant for half a decade?
I’m as against this wrong retheme as anyone but I don’t understand your anger here.
Kirby86
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Brer Bear from Disney's classic Who Framed Roger Rabbit? That's how they will keep selling his merchandise!
Dear Prudence
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Hahahahaha or Lion King 1 and 1/2
They released Brer Bear in the pin pack after they pulled one with Brer Rabbit and Brer Fox. It's so hard to keep up with the gaslighting.
LittleBuford
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The merchandise you’re referring to may have been designed and even ordered before the announcement of the retheme. As far as I know, you can no longer buy merchandise related to Splash Mountain or that features the Brer characters by themselves.Hahahahaha or Lion King 1 and 1/2
They released Brer Bear in the pin pack after they pulled one with Brer Rabbit and Brer Fox. It's so hard to keep up with the gaslighting.
LittleBuford
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The discussion about merchandise and Genie+ is confusing to me. The idea that the ride is so grossly offensive that it needs to be immediately shut down isn't coming from Disney; it's a canard cooked up by those deriding Disney's decision to change the theme. As one would expect, Disney's official language has been far more cautious and circumspect, allowing for precisely the approach we're seeing now. There has never been any suggestion that the attraction wouldn't continue operating in its current form until work is ready to begin on the retheme. As for merchandise, the situation is very different now from what it used to be. Before 2020, you could buy all manner of items dedicated to Splash Mountain and its characters. Now you can't. I really don't understand how any of this constitutes gaslighting.
Dear Prudence
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The pins with Brer Rabbit and Brer Fox were pulled, and their pins were replaced with Nightmare Before Xmas characters (I don't remember which ones, I am too tired to go and look). Those were the wishables mystery pin packs. The pin pack with Brer Bear just came out. There would have been enough time between the announcement and the release of the pins to remediate this.
LittleBuford
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It’s clear there have been some glitches in terms of removing all the Brer merchandise, but it’s also clear that removal is the direction in which they’re heading. If anything, I’m surprised at how quick and thorough the demise of Splash Mountain merchandise has been; I expected it to hang around until the bitter end.
ppete1975
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im assuming its more poor qc than anything, they have so many companies making stuff for them at this point and whomever is supposed to ok it before mass production clearly didnt notice.
They literally just a month ago placed artwork with the Brers go up in Disneyland's Main street. Some of it for sale. Ha.
Everyone one or more characters is on something, it is ok to profit and sperate because it is an oversight? The people who want it to stop just keep having oversights? Yet we are told it is less merch slowly because it all planned out one second, then oversights the next. So you can accidently produce character merch when you are not liking the evidence that those characters are still sold?
At any rate, it is interesting when asked that some said yes they would feel it would be a problem to profit if the Genie Plus revenue was not a part of the rides it is grouped with. Then at the same time that and onride photos are being sold as well as pressed pennies, beer bear on 50th merch and painted last month on a giant mural. Now carved in Oak wood at Disneyland. All just good old oversights, yet this is so carefully weening.
No one is arguing the merch is not as lucrative as Tiana, that is the primary reason for the change after all. But let's not call an intentional set of moves to profit oversights.
Everyone one or more characters is on something, it is ok to profit and sperate because it is an oversight? The people who want it to stop just keep having oversights? Yet we are told it is less merch slowly because it all planned out one second, then oversights the next. So you can accidently produce character merch when you are not liking the evidence that those characters are still sold?
At any rate, it is interesting when asked that some said yes they would feel it would be a problem to profit if the Genie Plus revenue was not a part of the rides it is grouped with. Then at the same time that and onride photos are being sold as well as pressed pennies, beer bear on 50th merch and painted last month on a giant mural. Now carved in Oak wood at Disneyland. All just good old oversights, yet this is so carefully weening.
No one is arguing the merch is not as lucrative as Tiana, that is the primary reason for the change after all. But let's not call an intentional set of moves to profit oversights.
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Dan Deesnee
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I'm guessing with supply chain issues they prioritized merchandise like the 50th stuff. It's possible they can pump out more 50th merch by reducing other merchandise offerings. A lot of this stuff probably comes from handful of big producers.
I expect a slow uptick in Splash merchandise availability over the next few months now that the 50th has started.
I expect a slow uptick in Splash merchandise availability over the next few months now that the 50th has started.
TomboyJanet
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However In the film Remus is NOT a slave as I have said, he is a sharecropper. He is free to leave as you can see he almost does but changes his mind. The truth is that no matter where you went as a black man it was a difficult life at that time period. I think they handled it the best they possibly couldViewers back in 1946 recognised the issues with the film, which centre on its romanticised depiction of plantation life.
TomboyJanet
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I just feel like compared to say the roustabouts and the crows in Dumbo, it depicts a more positive view for its time period. Yet Dumbo is not deleted from the Disney canon nor edited. The Remake was.....Well I can't comment on it because I haven't seen it but I heard it was just ok at best. I believe they could have done something with it to make it more uplifting towards BIPOC and maybe did some research on the history of oral traditions and have like a little educational area celebrating African American culture. I can't speak for people of color because the closest I come to any ethnic minority is having a small percentage of Lakota blood, but They could have remade it in a less problematic way, perhaps with a black man telling his kids the stories in a modern setting and toning down the speech elements, maybe set it in modern Georgia and tie in some elements about the struggle of minorities continuing to this day with some good lessons in the end. I think that would have been the best way to handle it.
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