Zootopia characters confirmed

FigmentForver96

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The message is actually about animals evolving against nature and developing human facets of co-existing, and the struggle between the two. But there's no humans technically so I guess that doesn't count in that insanely narrow ideology for every ride in a THEME PARK to base itself around.

Oh and that idea totally means Avatar fits in that world, so... y'know...
Avatar itself is a stretch, most have simply accepted it's here and it's staying.
 

Donaldfan1934

Well-Known Member
Oh yes.

"Frontierland was designed to be both a chronological and westward expansion, going from the east and earliest point at Liberty Square, all the way to the southwest 1870s at Big Thunder Mountain."
"Hey, isn't the landing for the Tom Sawyer rafts directly across from Big Thunder? How does that fit in to the design you described?"
"..."
Exactly, it doesn't. I would be all for moving Splash Mountain further down the ROA to put it in a full on Critter Country, but he seems a little extreme even for me.
 

Donaldfan1934

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Oswald was much more remembered in Japan, even being at Universal Studios Japan.
That must of felt very awkward even with them being the owners at the time. From what I've seen and heard, Universal Studios Japan has tried to rip off and capitalize off of Disney more than any of their other parks. They even have an electrical parade with fairytale character floats. Are there any pictures of Oswald meeting there? I've tried looking it up and all I could find was some merchandise that they sold.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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Oswald was much more remembered in Japan, even being at Universal Studios Japan.

He looks so out of place with the new Woody (Ren & Stimpy style) Designs...
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Matt_Black

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Exactly, it doesn't. I would be all for moving Splash Mountain further down the ROA to put it in a full on Critter Country, but he seems a little extreme even for me.

Yeah, he's arguing so hard for the integrity of a design philosophy that was never consistently implemented in the first place.
 

lazyboy97o

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He looks so out of place with the new Woody (Ren & Stimpy style) Designs...
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His insertion is very out of place indeed. Was there a walk around character too?
Why is it out of place? Disney made Oswald cartoons for barely a year, while Universal made them for fifteen.

Yeah, he's arguing so hard for the integrity of a design philosophy that was never consistently implemented in the first place.
Glad to see you spend so much time thinking about me.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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Why is it out of place? Disney made Oswald cartoons for barely a year, while Universal made them for fifteen..

I'm reffering to the New designs that they have been using lately since 2004 for the Walter Lantz characters..It has too much of a John K style of artwork.
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Oswald's design got modified from Black to Blue in 2004 as well and didn't change as much which is fine...It just looked weird with the new designs and Oswald not changing too much...
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However in the comic world his design....Well......
oswaldtherabbit1.jpg


Glad to see him still around in the newer comics tho....
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Donaldfan1934

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Why is it out of place? Disney made Oswald cartoons for barely a year, while Universal made them for fifteen.
Because the design that they used was the one that Walt and Ub Iwerks used when they created him. It's important to note that as @Cmdr_Crimson has shown, Universal made him unreconzable over the many years that they used him, so yes, it is very awkward to use the Walt era design that looks very much like an original Mickey Mouse design.
 
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Cesar R M

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I'm reffering to the New designs that they have been using lately since 2004 for the Walter Lantz characters..It has too much of a John K style of artwork.
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Oswald's design got modified from Black to Blue in 2004 as well and didn't change as much which is fine...It just looked weird with the new designs and Oswald not changing too much...
oswald_evolution05.jpg


However in the comic world his design....Well......
oswaldtherabbit1.jpg


Glad to see him still around in the newer comics tho....
walt-disneys-comics-and-stories.jpg
Oswald's face definitively was changed and rounded, to make him similar to the old Mickey.
 

Matt_Black

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The irony is.. these people do not understand these undertones will always exist in history.
Modifying a ride will not magically make racism or past discrimination disappear.

I think Splash is fine; most of the stuff that is objectionable by modern standards (like the Tar Baby, which over the years came to be a racial slur) was changed or removed. It's not like there's a Confederate Flag or a tribute to Nathan Bedford Forrest in the ride anywhere.
 

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