Brer Panther
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Y'know what Animal Kingdom should have? A Jungle Book dark ride. Now THAT movie is underrepresented.
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News Zootopia and Moana Blue Sky concepts for Disney's Animal Kingdom
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DoleWhipDrea
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Serenity was the purpose. Joe Rohde said as much in The Imagineering Story.
Not every attraction has to subject riders to extreme peril. It's fine if that's not what you want to experience in an attraction, but these parks are meant to be for everyone, which means it's necessary to have a variety of experiences. And when I come to Animal Kingdom, serenity is absolutely what I'm after.
Dinoland shouldn't be replaced, it should be plussed. Zootopia isn't thematically appropriate for the park - I could see the expansion going in the Animation Courtyard at DHS. I do understand the desire to include more sea life/the ocean to DAK and can see how that could fit. My concern is implementation.
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Robbiem
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I’ve always wanted to see a jungle book version of splash mountain.
What animal kingdom needs is a fantasyland area for animals so disney can put animal IP rides there but keep the rest of the park to its theme
doctornick
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I’ve always pictured a more calm ride on the level of IASW for Jungle Book. Or even using the POTC tech from Shanghai for more movement if needed.
Definitely. I’ve previously proposed a “Critter Country” land which has some Fantasyland-esque dark rides or flat rides. Probably theme it more to temperate forests of N American and Europe and use IP like Bambi, Pocahontas, 101 Dalmatians, Lady & the Tramp, Fox & the Hound, Brother Bear, Aristocats, The Rescuers, etc. There’s a ton of different quality options and something like that would make a nice replacement for Dinorama as a more kid friendly area. Could easily have some M&Gs or even a play area (Chip & Dale treehouse?) as part of it.
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Robbiem
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I think thats a great idea -something like an animal version of fantasy springs from tokyo themed to an enchanted forest with your ideas would be nice
SirLink
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Like a lot of those are just anthropomorphised version animals or in some cases like The Rescuers/Aristocats/101 Dalmatians/Lady and the Tramp/Fox and the Hound/Brother Bear, which is not what DAK needs.
No offense but DAK/Epcot are the places that shouldn't be getting IP forced into them, at this point I would like them just maintained to high level and no more IP stuffed into them. Sticking IP in DAK/Epcot is like taking the most delicious ice cream and sticking octopus into it. It doesn't belong nor should anyone be encouraging them apart from telling them to 'Stop it!'
doctornick
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How? I mean, obviously they are given human behavior- in order to make them watchable movie - but they are all “real” animals behaving as animals in worlds that have humans and are similar to our own. Animals that are proxies for humans like in Robin Hood or Zootopia are what really don’t fit in DAK (the point of Rohdes’ “no pants” rule). I guess you could say The Rescuers (and Great Mouse Detective which I didn’t mention) is kinda halfway there and I’d have no problem excluding that IP from DAK - the rest are all pretty reasonable.
That said, part of the reason I’m suggesting putting a number of these cartoon animals in one place is indeed to isolate them from the rest of DAK where they would feel more out of place. I absolutely think that DAK “needs” or at least would benefit from smaller scale animal focused rides that would compliment other park offerings. The park can use some whimsey to compliment more serious subject matters or thrill.
Brer Panther
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I really don't think One Hundred and One Dalmatians, The AristoCats, Lady and the Tramp, and Oliver and Company would fit in Disney's Animal Kingdom. Yes, they're about animals, but they take place in cities, towns, Paris - not exactly the type of location that would fit next to a collection of jungles and grasslands.
DisneyDodo
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I like this idea, but I would remove the suburban/urban IPs. Could call the land “North America” to match the other continents, with temperate forest and mountain theming, featuring Bambi, Pocahontas, Brother Bear, and Chip & Dale
Smiley/OCD
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Plussed, expansion and implementation…3 words that do NOT fit the 2022 TWDC narrative, let alone belong in the same sentence…
brb1006
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Aristocats would fit better at Epcot's France Pavillion.
brb1006
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Not trying to Arm Chair Imagineer here, but I prefer a new land that blends in with AK's trees and greenery (something to blend with grasslands and jungles) and dedicated to Disney Animals (basically better executed version of Camp Minnie-Mickey) while keeping the spirit of the parks theme. Where it contains outdoor and indoor sections mostly inspired by Bambi where it's based on the forest design of the film with a mixture of Jungle Book.
I would imagine the land containing two indoor and outdoor sections. One where guest would walk inside a Thumper's burrow that contains interactive and attractions geared towards families and guests who aren't into thrill rides. Alongside a large area based on the "April Showers" sequence. With the outdoor section being a meet and greet area for Thumper, Miss Bunny, and Flower (or Thumper' Sisters) with more attractions. While the other indoor section would be based on The Jungle Book and Rescuers which extends to an outdoor area think of Europa Park's Arthur and the Minimoys area. Seriously AK needs more an indoor attractions for guests to escape the Florida heat besides the Nemo theater.
Basically a spiritual successor to Camp Minnie-Mickey where it's the perfect area for guests to find various Disney animal characters (such as characters from Jungle Book, Bambi, Tarzan, and Pocahanto) but with more attractions and shows taking a cue from Critter Country.
Since the demolition of Camp Minnie-Mickey, it's become very tricky to find a specific Disney Character besides Mickey and Friends since they are scattered around across the park with other characters (such as The Circus Bugs from Bugs Life and Thumper and Miss Bunny) only appearing for special events such as The Earth Day Celebration or showing up unannounced at the park entrance. Unlike Magic Kingdom, Epcot, and Hollywood Studios where you can find a specific character much easier.
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Bocabear
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Before wasting money on another Meet N Greet land perhaps some more attractions that appeal to a wider audience and not another stand in line for a photo of a college kid in a fur suit...Yeah I know some people like it... I thought it was cute and fun when I was 8, and the characters were sort of a surprise... they were places, not on a schedule board with a full queue. Of course the meet and greet works well for TDO as the construction is minimal and they can save millions... But new attractions, Plussed and refurbished attractions I would rather see before more expanded meet and greets....
RSoxNo1
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I agree. While I do like the attraction for what it is, it's in the category of solid C ticket for me. Like other C-tickets (Peter Pan's Flight is probably the best example), I have a hard time waiting more than 10 minutes for it. If you wait an hour for a C-ticket you're going to go be disappointed.
UNCgolf
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I think I'd be willing to wait 30 or so minutes to ride it (it might be my second favorite ride at Animal Kingdom), but not the actual wait times it gets -- which I think is a huge problem with the ride's perception, as you mentioned.
Of course, I feel that way about most attractions. I wouldn't wait 90+ minutes to ride Flight of Passage either.
RSoxNo1
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I've waited 70 minutes for it before. If it's the only thing I have to wait that long for in the park, I'm ok with it. I also would typically only do that solo or with adults. I wouldn't make a child wait that long for that ride.
BuddyThomas
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That’s a freaking stretch and a half unless you were being sarcastic and it went over my head.
Incomudro
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Absolutely correct.
So many Disney characters are animals, from Mickey, to Donald, Pluto, Goofy etc.
But they're not Animal Kingdom material.
Neither should Zootopia be a part of it.
lazyboy97o
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What part of Zootopia relates to real animals? Is the notion of a movie being an allegory really too much?
The part the Imagineer touched on in the Blue Sky pitch, their habitats.