News Zootopia and Moana Blue Sky concepts for Disney's Animal Kingdom

[Incomudro]

What part of Zootopia relates to real animals? Is the notion of a movie being an allegory really too much?

The only part that does is that some of the animals have some of the qualities of their real life counterparts - like the sloth is slow.
But by that notion, Daffy talks with a duck like sound, and Mickey's voice is high and squeaky.
But that's about the extent of it.

 

[ToTBellHop]

In a park which has had talking/singing bugs, talking/singing lions, and talking/singing fish for many years, and which is now replacing a land built by Saint Joe that featured talking dinosaur mascots, perhaps we are taking things too seriously.

Next, you’ll tell me that the Pandora boat ride, which focuses on talking/singing blue people while animals appear as secondary characters, also aligns with this great theme some of you are experts on.

Honestly, the only ride I can think of that truly embodies that supposed theme is Kilimanjaro Safaris, and they have watered down its story tremendously, anyway.

How do all of the cultural performers that we adore have anything to do with animals? They’d arguably make more sense in World Showcase but we love them.

Perhaps we can just accept that DAK has never really been as focused on this theme as we claim. For me, it is the incredible scenery in the park that has always blown me away. Dinoland was always the low point there. Let’s hope the new additions look better.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Why do we still go back and forth over whether something fits or not into a land or park. Disney stopped worrying about that a long time ago. They will put what they want where they want now. If they want to put Mary Poppins in Dinoland they will do it and have some kind of story behind it. We can all name numerous attractions that don’t “fit”.

 

[Ghost93]

If they want to put Mary Poppins in Dinoland they will do it and have some kind of story behind it.

In a new E-ticket attraction called "Feed the Birds," guests have to escape being devoured by angry Pterodactyls. Near the climax of the attraction, the Bird Woman agrees to save the guests from the Pterodactyls in exchange for a tuppence. Those who don't fork up the money are doomed to be eaten.

 

[lazyboy97o]

In a park which has had talking/singing bugs, talking/singing lions, and talking/singing fish for many years, and which is now replacing a land built by Saint Joe that featured talking dinosaur mascots, perhaps we are taking things too seriously.

Next, you’ll tell me that the Pandora boat ride, which focuses on talking/singing blue people while animals appear as secondary characters, also aligns with this great theme some of you are experts on.

Honestly, the only ride I can think of that truly embodies that supposed theme is Kilimanjaro Safaris, and they have watered down its story tremendously, anyway.

How do all of the cultural performers that we adore have anything to do with animals? They’d arguably make more sense in World Showcase but we love them.

Perhaps we can just accept that DAK has never really been as focused on this theme as we claim. For me, it is the incredible scenery in the park that has always blown me away. Dinoland was always the low point there. Let’s hope the new additions look better.

It’s so weird how people who dedicate so much time to theme parks then turn around and spend so much time claiming they’re not really a thing.

 

[peter11435]

That’s a freaking stretch and a half unless you were being sarcastic and it went over my head.

It’s not a stretch at all. Zootopia is not about animals. Animals don’t drive cars. Animals don’t make popsicles. Animals don’t run the DMV. Animals don’t have mayors and police forces. Zootopia is not a story about animals facing animal issues. It is a story involving human settings and human issues and uses anthropomorphic animals in place of humans to make its story and topics more palatable for audiences.

 

[peter11435]

The part the Imagineer touched on in the Blue Sky pitch, their habitats.

Surely you recognize that those habitats in the film have far more in common with human cities than actual habitats these animals would call home.

 

[BuddyThomas]

You said the word “animals” at least six times in your above post. I didn’t bother to count too carefully. But yeah - animals belong at Animal Kingdom. You do know that Beastly Kingdom (never built) had “animals” that never existed. So Zootopia is totally appropriate, but again, please don’t ride the ride that offends you so much.

 

[BuddyThomas]

What part of Zootopia relates to real animals? Is the notion of a movie being an allegory really too much?

What part of the Pirates of the Caribbean relates to real pirates? Give it a rest.

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ✨ ᗩζᗩᗰ]

Surely you recognize that those habitats in the film have far more in common with human cities than actual habitats these animals would call home.

I do. But the Imagineering spin says otherwise. Or rather, they chose to ignore it.

 

[peter11435]

You said the word “animals” at least six times in your above post. I didn’t bother to count too carefully. But yeah - animals belong at Animal Kingdom. You do know that Beastly Kingdom (never built) had “animals” that never existed. So Zootopia is totally appropriate, but again, please don’t rise the ride that offends you so much.

Did you bother to actually read my post?

Animals belong at Animal Kingdom. The characters in Zootopia are “animals” only as far as they vaguely resemble the animals they are based on.

 

[BuddyThomas]

I do. But the spin still exists.

Also, there was never any Dinoland USA in America. Imagine! Fiction!

 

[BuddyThomas]

Did you bother to actually read my post?

Animals belong at Animal Kingdom. The characters in Zootopia are “animals” only as far as they vaguely resemble the animals they are based on.

Hun, they are animals whether you like it or not. Animals are appropriate at Animal Kingdom. That’s all.

 

[peter11435]

What part of the Pirates of the Caribbean relates to real pirates? Give it a rest.

I’m sorry you don’t understand Zootopia or Animal Kingdom but there’s plenty of us that do

 

[peter11435]

Hun, they are animals whether you like it or not. Animals are appropriate at Animal Kingdom. That’s all.

They are anthropomorphic animals used to represent humans and tell humans stories whether you like it or not. They are not animals. That’s all.

 

[UNCgolf]

In a park which has had talking/singing bugs, talking/singing lions, and talking/singing fish for many years, and which is now replacing a land built by Saint Joe that featured talking dinosaur mascots, perhaps we are taking things too seriously.

Next, you’ll tell me that the Pandora boat ride, which focuses on talking/singing blue people while animals appear as secondary characters, also aligns with this great theme some of you are experts on.

Honestly, the only ride I can think of that truly embodies that supposed theme is Kilimanjaro Safaris, and they have watered down its story tremendously, anyway.

How do all of the cultural performers that we adore have anything to do with animals? They’d arguably make more sense in World Showcase but we love them.

Perhaps we can just accept that DAK has never really been as focused on this theme as we claim. For me, it is the incredible scenery in the park that has always blown me away. Dinoland was always the low point there. Let’s hope the new additions look better.

What caused such a change in your position?

When it was first announced you seemed pretty adamant that Zootopia didn't fit into Animal Kingdom and that hopefully it wouldn't come to fruition, but now you seem to have no problem with it.

Regardless, none of us need to be experts -- the guy that designed the park has already said Zootopia doesn't fit.

 

[peter11435]

Also, there was never any Dinoland USA in America. Imagine! Fiction!

There also was never a Harambe in Africa or an Anandapur in Asia. There doesn’t need to be. They still realistically depict real places, with real people, with real connections to real animals and the natural world.

 

[BuddyThomas]

There also was never a Harambe in Africa or an Anandapur in Asia. There doesn’t need to be. They still realistically depict real places, with real people, with real connections to real animals and the natural world.

I freaking can’t with this. Bye!

 

[BuddyThomas]

I’m sorry you don’t understand Zootopia or Animal Kingdom but there’s plenty of us that do

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

You said the word “animals” at least six times in your above post. I didn’t bother to count too carefully. But yeah - animals belong at Animal Kingdom. You do know that Beastly Kingdom (never built) had “animals” that never existed. So Zootopia is totally appropriate, but again, please don’t ride the ride that offends you so much.

Seems like you read about as carefully as you counted - he used the word "animals" to illustrate the events and circumstances in Zootopia that do not have any correlation to the actual animal kingdom of our real world. The characters in Zootopia operate outside of the intended purview of Disney's Animal Kingdom, which is more nuanced than just "anything that's an animal goes here".

Just because you can't make a compelling counter-argument doesn't mean the person you're responding to was "offended".