News Zootopia and Moana Blue Sky concepts for Disney's Animal Kingdom

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Elijah Abrams

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How about this for a DinoLand reimagining instead of Zootopia and Moana: An Australia land! It would have the existing DinoLand area (minus Din-O-Rama), as well as a new area featuring animals from Australia and an Outback jeep ride (with animals, basically a "down under" version of Kilimanjaro Safari).
 
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DisneyHead123

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FettFan said:
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😂 Americans feel weirdly strongly about the importance of theming. I joke, but I do it too. I think it’s on display a lot this time of year as we rush to put away our beach themed stuff and run to the store to buy gourd decorations and pumpkin spiced everything.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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DisneyHead123 said:
😂 Americans feel weirdly strongly about the importance of theming. I joke, but I do it too. I think it’s on display a lot this time of year as we rush to put away our beach themed stuff and run to the store to buy gourd decorations and pumpkin spiced everything.
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We’re talking about theme parks. It’s like being surprised that people take different types of grapes seriously when talking about wine.
 
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DisneyHead123

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lazyboy97o said:
We’re talking about theme parks. It’s like being surprised that people take different types of grapes seriously when talking about wine.
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I get that there are different levels and some people are purists who take it well beyond the average park goer. But I do think a general theme is important to most people. It’s like walking into a room that’s nicely organized and decorated and everything flows together, vs. walking into a teenager’s room where they’ve just kinda tossed their stuff in random places.
 
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eolnenmacil

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Animal Kingdom needs shot in the arm. It's been 5 years since Pandora was added, and unlike so many on this forum seem to think, Dinoland is falling apart. The idea that they were going to keep the theme of Chester and Hester's is naive at best. It was a flawed theme to begin with. I don't want to lose Dinosaur either, but at the end of the day, it's the price that has to be paid to have the whole land brought up to standard.

The theming of Animal Kingdom is not going to be 'ruined' if Zootopia or Moana is added, that is just hyperbolic. I swear, if this forum was able to make the decisions, there would never be any IPs added to the park ever.
 
peter11435

peter11435

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JMcMahonEsq said:
No he just doesn’t live on a message board and understands that if the rides are built well, are fun and entertaining, then AK is not going to be “ruined”
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You don’t need to live on a message board to understand the theme of AK. Individual rides being built well, fun and entertaining shouldn’t be the only metric to decide if they belong in a “theme” park. It’s called a theme park for a reason. AK won’t be “ruined” with the addition of Zootopia… but it’s overall theme will be. I’m not sure why so called fans of theme parks would want to encourage placing attractions that don’t fit that theme.
 
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James Alucobond

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eolnenmacil said:
I don't want to lose Dinosaur either, but at the end of the day, it's the price that has to be paid to have the whole land brought up to standard.
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What about Dinosaur, when properly maintained, is not up to standard? And what about adding Zootopia would improve that standard? It wouldn’t fit in any better to the potential regional placemaking of Nemo + Moana, and it would likely use the same ride system.
 
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mysto

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Dinosaurs are a great theme. I hear a lot of you saying that, and that it just needs some additions. Excavator would be great, thorough refurb of Dinosaur, a guy in a raptor costume. The carnival space is available as far as we care right?

The other proposals might work out, but why bother.
 
SpectreJordan

SpectreJordan

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How much land, if any, is there near Dinoland for expansion? I'm not familiar with the BTS layouts of the parks. I wonder if it'd be possible to go through with the Moana expansion, keep Dinosaur & then either expand for Zootopia or more dinosaurs.
 
_caleb

_caleb

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Lately it seems like every thread eventually encounters someone who obviously has not kept up with the thread asking “why does everyone around here care so much about theming at a theme park?”
 
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eolnenmacil

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I've worked in Disney for 5 years, 1 in Animal Kingdom, specifically Dinoland, but yeah no, you're right, I "don't understand" the park. The fact is that if you were actually able to see what Guests have been saying about Dinoland and Animal Kingdom over the past couple of years, you would be able to see that outside of this forum it is not nearly as popular as a lot of you seem think it is, and understand that sticking to a dogmatic and static view of what Animal Kingdom is, is a flawed way to think.

Dinoland is a outdated idea at its core. I love Joe Rhode as much as anyone here, and I think he is brilliant, but the land was a vanity project for him. He is also no longer involved with Disney and Imagineering. It's time for others to have an influence over the future of this park. The other, inescapable fact is that change is coming, whether the commenters here like it or not. So if the only ideas you have are to refurbish Dinosaur and add another non descript ride into Dinorama, then I'm glad you're not the ones in charge of those changes.
 
Coaster Lover

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peter11435 said:
You don’t need to live on a message board to understand the theme of AK.
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I think many may be confusing "theme" with "mission". The "theme" of animal kingdom is animals and the "kingdoms" they live in and this is really all the GP see (and care about). To the GP, if it's animals, it belongs at Animal Kingdom. Now we, as intellectuals who know far too much about Disney, know that Animal Kingdom has a beautifully established mission of showing the balance between humans and animals and how important it is to protect and value animals lest we lose them forever... and if you REALLY look at the park, that mission is visible... but the GP doesn't care about that (or at least most of them don't). Would Moana and Zootopia ruin the theme of Animal Kingdom? No (they would fit the theme a lot better than plopping a Tron or Test Track or Frozen ride in Animal Kingdom). Do they further the mission of the park? Moana is a hard sell... Zootopia is an even harder sell... Would the GP care? No... they'd love a good Moana water ride and it would quickly become one of the longest lines in the park...
 
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CalebS

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eolnenmacil said:
I've worked in Disney for 5 years, 1 in Animal Kingdom, specifically Dinoland, but yeah no, you're right, I "don't understand" the park. The fact is that if you were actually able to see what Guests have been saying about Dinoland and Animal Kingdom over the past couple of years, you would be able to see that outside of this forum it is not nearly as popular as a lot of you seem think it is, and understand that sticking to a dogmatic and static view of what Animal Kingdom is, is a flawed way to think.

Dinoland is a outdated idea at its core. I love Joe Rhode as much as anyone here, and I think he is brilliant, but the land was a vanity project for him. He is also no longer involved with Disney and Imagineering. It's time for others to have an influence over the future of this park. The other, inescapable fact is that change is coming, whether the commenters here like it or not. So if the only ideas you have are to refurbish Dinosaur and add another non descript ride into Dinorama, then I'm glad you're not the ones in charge of those changes.
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Okay Josh
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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eolnenmacil said:
I've worked in Disney for 5 years, 1 in Animal Kingdom, specifically Dinoland, but yeah no, you're right, I "don't understand" the park. The fact is that if you were actually able to see what Guests have been saying about Dinoland and Animal Kingdom over the past couple of years, you would be able to see that outside of this forum it is not nearly as popular as a lot of you seem think it is, and understand that sticking to a dogmatic and static view of what Animal Kingdom is, is a flawed way to think.

Dinoland is a outdated idea at its core. I love Joe Rhode as much as anyone here, and I think he is brilliant, but the land was a vanity project for him. He is also no longer involved with Disney and Imagineering. It's time for others to have an influence over the future of this park. The other, inescapable fact is that change is coming, whether the commenters here like it or not. So if the only ideas you have are to refurbish Dinosaur and add another non descript ride into Dinorama, then I'm glad you're not the ones in charge of those changes.
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Dinosaurs are outdated? The land that has a big component designed to be easily removed was a vanity project? Sure.
 
peter11435

peter11435

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Coaster Lover said:
I think many may be confusing "theme" with "mission". The "theme" of animal kingdom is animals and the "kingdoms" they live in and this is really all the GP see (and care about). To the GP, if it's animals, it belongs at Animal Kingdom. Now we, as intellectuals who know far too much about Disney, know that Animal Kingdom has a beautifully established mission of showing the balance between humans and animals and how important it is to protect and value animals lest we lose them forever... and if you REALLY look at the park, that mission is visible... but the GP doesn't care about that (or at least most of them don't). Would Moana and Zootopia ruin the theme of Animal Kingdom? No (they would fit the theme a lot better than plopping a Tron or Test Track or Frozen ride in Animal Kingdom). Do they further the mission of the park? Moana is a hard sell... Zootopia is an even harder sell... Would the GP care? No... they'd love a good Moana water ride and it would quickly become one of the longest lines in the park...
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but the theme of animal kingdom is not simply animals
 

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