No Name
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Not sure what you’re seeing…
Looks like nothing more than trees to me, but even if they use that as an animal trail or something, they do have two other large and readily available areas.
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Looks like nothing more than trees to me, but even if they use that as an animal trail or something, they do have two other large and readily available areas.
James Alucobond
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There's a set of side-by-side entrances at the south (relative to the image orientation) that aren't there at present and pass under some canopies to the north, so either a new exit from Indy or an animal trail.
Jrb1979
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It's also why I think they are trying to add more thrill rides to the parks. What Disney excelled at was those dark rides but as you said today's generation aren't wowed by them. They also like thrill rides but due to their target guest they can't make them as intense or with high G forces to compete with other parks in that area.
iMO Disney is in a tough spot right now with the type of attractions they add.
ToTBellHop
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No, I’m saying DAK is a tropical rainforest that doesn’t pack rides in. The places you label are filled with trees that make DAK look like a forest and not DHS. If we remove the trees or fill courtyards for flat rides, that’s Magic Kingdom. We frequently complain about lack of trees there.
Is Magic Carpets of Aladdin the goal?
I just think 3 rides in a land (and, hopefully, some animal exhibits) is fine. And I certainly don’t need Lion King bumper cars in front of Kilimanjaro Safaris or a Jungle Book tilt-a-whirl next to Kali even if both would fit.
I also object to the claim that Disney is being cheap by keeping all of that horticulture they maintain instead of dropping in flat rides. Haven’t we been complaining about how cheap Dino-Rama is for 2 decades?
Brer Panther
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Yes, and does Disney take advantage of that? No. Instead, we get gigantic empty rooms for the vehicles to crawl around in and parking the riders in front of a giant screen for half the ride.
Ratatouille could've been a simulator and it wouldn't have made a difference.
But apparently we modern park-goers are dumb hicks who hate dark rides because they're not thrilling enough for us (the extremely long lines for Toy Story Mania and Peter Pan say otherwise) unless they're trackless. Add that to the list of things that modern park-goers hate (attractions not based on IPs, animatronic shows, dinosaurs).
lazyboy97o
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You complain about being considered dumb while clearly thinking everyone else is too dumb to realize that you’re again being dishonest. All of the trackless dark rides at Walt Disney World utilize switches. It’s the big gag that they even highlight in Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway. Rise of the Resistance has two different ways upstairs. Even Ratatouille uses switches to place the vehicles in different positions in front of the screens. Stop trying to sound edgy. You’re trying to blame technology for design decisions it does not inherently dictate.
I know it's not apples to apples but the frenetic ride through ancient ruins caused by a mcguffin and the frenetic ride through an enchanted house caused by a mcguffin might be too similar. Thoughts?
But I do!
If and only if you can push other cars off a small cliff.
And the cars are decorated as wildebeests and there are guests standing in the ride you can run over.
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Who says a ride through Casita has to be frenetic or MacGuffin motivated?
It was implied or presumed that the ride would be a Mystic Manor type which is why I posed the question.
DisneyHead123
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Agree… it’s consistently been the “family friendly thrill rides” that have gotten rave reviews and long lines, while the new-ish dark rides are usually reliably low wait time (Frozen being an exception because of the fan base). I think the insistence on IP doesn’t help much either - even for the classic dark rides, I believe Peter Pan is the only IP based ride that draws huge crowds. Pirates, Jungle Cruise, Haunted Mansion, and Small World make me wonder if insisting on IP is part of the problem. Possibly it’s just harder to build atmosphere around a movie because they’re trying to squeeze too many events into a small space - whereas a simpler theme like “haunted house” or “pirates” allows for a fuller experience.
Bocabear
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How do we even know what the Encanto attraction will be? at this point it could be an elaborate Meet-n-Greet / Enchanted Tales with Bell type scenario where you go through the enchanted doors to meet the different characters...that would not surprise me at all.
an Omnimover dark ride or additional trackless vehicle ride next door to Indy seems like a larger expansion than they seem to do these days....
an Omnimover dark ride or additional trackless vehicle ride next door to Indy seems like a larger expansion than they seem to do these days....
neo999955
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Which Disney World are you going to where RoTR, M&M or Ratatouille don't have long wait times?
Personally, I love RoTR and M&M and think they'll stay very popular for many years. Ratatouille is fine, but I don't think it deserves the long waits it often has and I imagine it'll wane over time.
neo999955
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We don't, but we're assuming. And I think it's more likely based on the og Moana ride they were going to build and the new blue sky with the giant Encanto house seeming like a ride entrance. Plus, obviously, AK needs the ride.
It seems the smartest approach is to build this, keep Dino open and then retheme Dino once it's open.
Tha Realest
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Yeah. Rat seems to be pretty reliable.
If I hard to guess ROTR’s issues are more with the doe-see-doe it used to do with the cannons and the drop mechanism?
ToTBellHop
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Yeah, both Rat and MMRR seem pretty reliable. They break down like any other ride but never seem to be down as often or as long as RotR.
With Rise, it’s crazy because the ride will be down so much and then it reopens and a bunch of effects aren’t working anyway. I’m not sure what effects cause it to actually close other than, as you suggest, the elevators and drop cars.
mattpeto
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Always heard the DL version is more reliable, not sure how true that is.
seabreezept813
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M&M already feels like a classic for us!
DisneyHead123
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Sorry for the confusion, earlier in this thread I had delineated the stylistically new dark rides (the ones you mentioned) from classic, traditional dark rides. Some people don’t like the new style, and I get that, but my feeling is that the more classic style of dark rides doesn’t “sell” with this generation. Nemo, Little Mermaid, the new Figment, Pooh - to my mind these were created in a more classic style, without the bells and whistles of something like the Buzz Lightyear ride, the herky jerky hyperkinetic feel of Rat and Runaway Railway, or the amped up, theatrical immersion style of Rise. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that they’re all generally low wait rides.
I am actually hopeful that there could be a traditional dark ride renaissance in the future. I just think it would take a spark of creative brilliance to figure out how to keep the traditional format in a way that captivates people in the 2020’s.