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Your take on Michael Vick playing again...
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EPCOT Explorer
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Interesting. Glad he's doing this. He should be ONLY doing this, though...Like I said, low of the NFL to take him back.
Sounds like he knew it was a choice, and he knew better, IMHO.:shrug:
maggiegrace1
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I agree with you on both things...
I think he is only sorry because he got caught...:shrug:
He does not deserve to play football again in the NFL!
EPCOT Explorer
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Hmmm... I don't know about that. You suffer for something, you preach, you being to practice. Just another part of the Social Psyche.:shrug::lol:
But, I do agree...This guy should NOT be playing football. He needs to be preaching, and preaching ONLY to really convey a good image.
EpcotServo
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Don't associate that with a crime like this.
If everyone didn't ignore what the world tells you, there wouldn't be us crazy unique individuals like me.
GenerationX
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This is a tough one, because his actions were despicable. And I could give a rats how/where he was raised, because that's zero excuse for breaking the law. A person's upbringing certainly influences their character and behavior, but that doesn't mean a person is somehow not accountable if what they do as an adult is illegal.
However, from a purely legal standpoint, he's done his time and is following through on his rehabilitation plan. It's still too early to tell if his heart has truly changed, but he's a free man following the judge's and NFL commissioner's orders. As long as he continues to do so, he has a right to seek employment in his chosen profession.
However, from a purely legal standpoint, he's done his time and is following through on his rehabilitation plan. It's still too early to tell if his heart has truly changed, but he's a free man following the judge's and NFL commissioner's orders. As long as he continues to do so, he has a right to seek employment in his chosen profession.
WDWFREAK53
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I've heard both sides of the argument from different people.
1. It's dispicable and he should not have been allowed back in the NFL because he killed innocent and defenseless animals...
2. He paid his debt to society and should be given the second chance to make a living in the field he is talented in.
Here is my take.
Was it a dispicable act? Certainly.
Was he given the harshest of penalties for the crime? Apparently.
After serving that time, should he be allowed to make a living and support his family? Yes.
BUT...and that's a big..."BUT."
The "NFL" should set a standard. Thousands of people that are qualified are beating down the door to play in the NFL. It should be looked at like a priviledge and not a "job." If you screw up in your "fantasy job," you shouldn't get a second chance...you should constantly on your best behavior because you know that you can be replaced (skill is out the window in a case like this IMO). If you don't want to take responsibility for your actions on and off the field and represent your "company" to the best of your ability...then take a walk.
If Vick wasn't "caught," he'd still be doing it. It's not like he turned himself in all of a sudden or had stopped years before...and saw his wrongdoings on his own.
So, to answer the original question...
Yes, he should still be able to make a living and support his family but not by ways of the NFL.
1. It's dispicable and he should not have been allowed back in the NFL because he killed innocent and defenseless animals...
2. He paid his debt to society and should be given the second chance to make a living in the field he is talented in.
Here is my take.
Was it a dispicable act? Certainly.
Was he given the harshest of penalties for the crime? Apparently.
After serving that time, should he be allowed to make a living and support his family? Yes.
BUT...and that's a big..."BUT."
The "NFL" should set a standard. Thousands of people that are qualified are beating down the door to play in the NFL. It should be looked at like a priviledge and not a "job." If you screw up in your "fantasy job," you shouldn't get a second chance...you should constantly on your best behavior because you know that you can be replaced (skill is out the window in a case like this IMO). If you don't want to take responsibility for your actions on and off the field and represent your "company" to the best of your ability...then take a walk.
If Vick wasn't "caught," he'd still be doing it. It's not like he turned himself in all of a sudden or had stopped years before...and saw his wrongdoings on his own.
So, to answer the original question...
Yes, he should still be able to make a living and support his family but not by ways of the NFL.
njDizFan
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^ completely agree with the last comment wdwfreak. Yes, Vick did a terrible thing and he did serve his time. He also has a right to employment but the NFL should be a privilage. They have the ability to set standards for their players. Not everyone should have the right to play in the NFL.
Not to get too OT but we also have to watch our own actions. This is a terrible crime against the most loved animal for most Americans. Yet we support killing animals for sport all the time. Whether it be hunting, fishing etc. If the animal is not used for meat, it is sport. And trying not to go on a full rant, we use animals for amusement in zoo, circus and aquariums where most of the time they will never see a full life. The average life span of a caged animal is less than half it's natural life. Personally I love Sea World but after doing research on the attrocities, I cannot allow myself to go back.
Not to get too OT but we also have to watch our own actions. This is a terrible crime against the most loved animal for most Americans. Yet we support killing animals for sport all the time. Whether it be hunting, fishing etc. If the animal is not used for meat, it is sport. And trying not to go on a full rant, we use animals for amusement in zoo, circus and aquariums where most of the time they will never see a full life. The average life span of a caged animal is less than half it's natural life. Personally I love Sea World but after doing research on the attrocities, I cannot allow myself to go back.
maggiegrace1
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Agree!
jeffk410
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Basic Child psychology will say otherwise :veryconfu I am not by any means starting a fight, But if you are brought up around violence and / or never taught it does not matter how old you are. Just like if your brought up around guns. You learn most when you are a child. Have you ever looked into his upbringing? Sometimes you dont just learn things because you are an adult. You would be surprised how much you learn when your a child. Look into his upbringing you would be surprised. But I do agree what he did was 100 percent wrong maybe he learned maybe he didnt, but i believe in 2nd chances. And the eagles wildcat formation should be nasty this year. Westbrook, Vick, and Mcnabb. Luckily the pats dont play them. :ROFLOL:
jeffk410
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What makes the NFL different? Yes children look up to them ,but by the way the media attacked Vick they now know better. Vick is trying to talk to schools around the country, which he has done already. I do not believe the NFL should be any different. People look up to teachers, police officers and trust me some cops have got away with much much worse. I don't see why the nfl is so different? His reputation is already ruined and people see that. I do not care though he is still an amazing athlete.
EPCOT Explorer
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Shush.
You know what I mean.And yeah, I would not be around, either.:lol:
You win.:sohappy:
FANTASTICALLY said.
Tater48
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This thug did not pay his debt to society. You will never convince me that name recognition and cash money didn't get him off with a slap on the wrist. Yes, a slap on the wrist. This all started playing out while he was home nursing a hurt leg. He stated to Federal Prosecutors that he never knew there was illegal dog fighting going on at HIS OWN house. Federal statutes call for 3 years and a $250,000.00 fine PER dog involved. Authorities removed 60+ dogs from his property. Lets see, that comes out to about 180 years and a 15 million dollar fine. Had he served out his sentence and paid his fine, I wouldn't have a problem with it. Who ever said that Crime Does Not Pay?
Hurry up and make parole Rae Carruth, there are lots of folks out there who want you to have your second chance. You will have paid your debt to society and you deserve to have this job to support yourself and your family. You only committed conspiracy to commit murder and I am sure you have seen the error of your ways. There is no diifference in you or any other thug out there (Vick).
Hurry up and make parole Rae Carruth, there are lots of folks out there who want you to have your second chance. You will have paid your debt to society and you deserve to have this job to support yourself and your family. You only committed conspiracy to commit murder and I am sure you have seen the error of your ways. There is no diifference in you or any other thug out there (Vick).
WOW! You won the whole discussion!
EPCOT Explorer
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*runs around screaming about Fantasyland*
There, that should distract us.:lookaroun
There, that should distract us.:lookaroun
EpcotServo
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*Yells the Star Tours jingle loudly at you*
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EvilQueen-T
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i'm a big sports fan but this is just one more reason to make sure our kids don't think sports personalities are role models. this is just another example of money over morality...they've suspended players for "life" for using drugs and they're right back in again so in that i guess he's no different. i don't believe most actions at home should make or break your job but vick makes me absolutely sick. after hearing the details of how he treated those animals and how he planned to do commercials against animal cruelty...ugh what a hypocrite... if we have to put up with him playing i for one won't shed a tear if he gets his clock cleaned on the field.
I have to disagree a little some people who play sports are nice and don't do any of those stupid things for example Derek Jeter of the Yankees a fine gentlemen in all of baseball
