YOMD stoops to new lows

[unkadug]

Here's a thought - the title of that article:

"Guy with no kids spends a night in Cinderella's Suite"

That's the exact title of that article. It comes out about a month AFTER all of the press hoopla over the suite. Why did it take him almost a month to write that article?

Because it didn't. Disney has getting pressure about how only families were being selected for the suite since before they awarded it. They knew it, know it, and have been trying to fight it. The PR wheels turned trying to get a story out there about a "single guy with no kids" being in the suite. Problem is, they don't control the press. It backfired in the way he wrote it.

Don't beleive me? Where are the other articles about the Castle Suite that other reporters are throwing in the papers right now...? Any..? But look at all the unrest on the internet over the chosen winner - the dis, intercot, miceage - everywhere you look people are not trusting Disney on this one.

Is it really that important anyway ?

I thought you made your money from following Disney, indirectly.
Why such negativity?

 

[Captain Hank]

Merf--Don't you think that with the huge deal that Disney is making out of this promotion that they'd want to guard against any issues that might crop up? It is in Disney's best interest to make this legal, fair and random. And that's exactly what they've done.

 

[ToTBellHop]

YoaMD discrimination? To quote John Stossel, give me a break! It does not take a mathematical genius to realize that any ride and most shows have a finite number of seats. The number of seconds in a day is finite. It would be very easy to have a computer spit out a time and exact seat at random--the same way they search people in airports. This entire thread is utterly ridiculous. There are too many bona fide problems with the YoaMD to waste our time with this absurdity. Even if Disney wanted to eventually make the suite available to rent, that would be fine. This would surely not be the first time a vacation destination offered exclusive areas for the wealthy or well-known. What is Club 33? Even if I had the money to join, it wouldn't be as though I could knock on the door, swipe my credit card, and ride the elevator on up for dinner. Exclusivity is nothing new. Been to Vegas much?

 

[Sherrybaby]

We have all said it a million times, life is not fair--get over it! I am not going to jump on the bandwagon that thinks Disney is being 100% fair in this contest. But *no* contest is ever 100% fair...then with that argument we'd have to define "fair" and get into another debate.

Mousermerf--you lose credibility with one glance due to your obvious misspelling of "Squishy" and the fact that this has been brought to your attention several times but you still don't fix it.

That being said, I do agree with some of your arguments--just fix your avatar, will ya?

Sherry

 

[spaceghost]

Now what about the discrimination involved?

The boy who won the first awarded night in the castle from the drawing by being the park won it... where?

He was on Star Tours.

Think about it, let it sink in. What about all the guests who can't ride Star Tour because of the ride restrictions Disney has placed on it? Height, health, pregnancy, motion sickness, and other restrictions.

Having it as one of the many possible award sites tilts the odds away from anyone who will not/cannot ride Star Tours. Same things goes for any of the other such attractions they've chosen to have as distribution sites.

What about those lanyards at Spaceship Earth? Were they making sure that every single person rode the attraction was being awarded? I doubt it. They were just handing them out at the exit - which is also the wheelchair accessible entrance. Anyone could have wnadered into or out of that door actually. Really a well chosen location.

And here's a doozy.. Guests in wheelchairs who have to transfer cannot sit in the seat that was awarded the castle. They have to sit in the front row of Star Tours. It's required. They don't have the option of trying for the other seats.

Does the award system cover every single seat in every single vehicle of Star Tours? Every single seat in every single vehicle of the Land boat ride? We know the Castle was awarded at both of these locations.

I doubt it. The system is flawed and limits who can win - it is not fair.

I am so suing Disney if they award any prizes on its a small world. I can't stand that ride and if they award prizes on a ride that they know a certain percentage of their visitors won't go on, that is totally discrimination. :hammer:

Personally, me-thinks someone is just jealous because they haven't won anything and they wanted to sit nekkid in Cinderella's whirlpool tub instead of some AP reporter guy.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I am so suing Disney if they award any prizes on its a small world. I can't stand that ride and if they award prizes on a ride that they know a certain percentage of their visitors won't go on, that is totally discrimination. :hammer:

Personally, me-thinks someone is just jealous because they haven't won anything and they wanted to sit nekkid in Cinderella's whirlpool tub instead of some AP reporter guy.

I've been naked in Cinderella Castle. Unfortunately, I have no photodocumentation...there's always next time.

 

[llrain]

why does merf hate disney so much?

 

[jb1602b]

Now what about the discrimination involved?

The boy who won the first awarded night in the castle from the drawing by being the park won it... where?

He was on Star Tours.

Think about it, let it sink in. What about all the guests who can't ride Star Tour because of the ride restrictions Disney has placed on it? Height, health, pregnancy, motion sickness, and other restrictions.

Having it as one of the many possible award sites tilts the odds away from anyone who will not/cannot ride Star Tours. Same things goes for any of the other such attractions they've chosen to have as distribution sites.

What about those lanyards at Spaceship Earth? Were they making sure that every single person rode the attraction was being awarded? I doubt it. They were just handing them out at the exit - which is also the wheelchair accessible entrance. Anyone could have wnadered into or out of that door actually. Really a well chosen location.

And here's a doozy.. Guests in wheelchairs who have to transfer cannot sit in the seat that was awarded the castle. They have to sit in the front row of Star Tours. It's required. They don't have the option of trying for the other seats.

Does the award system cover every single seat in every single vehicle of Star Tours? Every single seat in every single vehicle of the Land boat ride? We know the Castle was awarded at both of these locations.

I doubt it. The system is flawed and limits who can win - it is not fair.

The fact that the winning circumstances are chosen randomly means there's always going to be an intrinsic degree of discrimination to some people. You can't start adding perameters and removing prize locations because a certain demographic of people can't access it. While it's tough luck for that demographic, the contest is still staying random. If you started invalidating prizes because they were awarded on attractions like Star Tours, the contest would become less and less random--less than you're already saying it is. So, isn't your logic sort of self-defeating?

 

[tink rules]

Ok...

A Night in the castle... Dinner at Cindy's, VIP tour, Souvineers, and a ride down Main Street... (with the world looking at you...)

Priceless.


No... Actually $567... for 4 people... not bad...

I thought for sure that the first person they rented the castle out to was going to be Tom Cruise...

Hey... I wonder if the suite winners have to claim that on their taxes next year... I'm sure Disney will send them a nice little piece of paper to add to their W2's...

 

[Iakona]

why does merf hate disney so much?

I don't believe Merf hates Disney, he spends a lot of time there and is very passionate about the parks. However, on this subject (YOMD) he has hammered away at a PR and advertising plan with tunnel vision and (IMHO) a closed mind.

 

[Master Yoda]

Ok...

A Night in the castle... Dinner at Cindy's, VIP tour, Souvineers, and a ride down Main Street... (with the world looking at you...)

Priceless.


No... Actually $567... for 4 people... not bad...

I thought for sure that the first person they rented the castle out to was going to be Tom Cruise...

Hey... I wonder if the suite winners have to claim that on their taxes next year... I'm sure Disney will send them a nice little piece of paper to add to their W2's...

Yes you do. It is true with any prize you win but blame Uncle Sam for that one not the mouse.

And Merf I know this will fall on deaf ears but step #1 in getting out of a hole is to throw out the shovel. Your park construction updates are great but you opinion pieces leave a bit to be desired and IMHO border on troll like. Stick to what you are good at.

 

[hokielutz]

The fact that the winning circumstances are chosen randomly means there's always going to be an intrinsic degree of discrimination to some people. You can't start adding perameters and removing prize locations because a certain demographic of people can't access it. While it's tough luck for that demographic, the contest is still staying random. If you started invalidating prizes because they were awarded on attractions like Star Tours, the contest would become less and less random--less than you're already saying it is. So, isn't your logic sort of self-defeating?

jb is right on the money. The process appears to be truely random, and any adjustments they put into their system that limits when and where prizes are awarded is, in effect real discrimination. What if people who came to Disney wanted only to ride the thrill rides... yet because of a parameter, prizes were only awarded on rides that were accessable everyone old enough to walk. (1+ yrs old) That would cancel out the thrill seekers.

 

[hokielutz]

I have to say that the article from this AP writer provides a unique perspective of the stay in Cindy's castle and all the bells and whistles that go with it.

The details about the hectic pre-planned schedule were interesting and confirmed my previously held notions that you won't get to spend a whole lot of time in the suite, enjoying your spoils. For me, the best part of the whole deal is the front of the line escort. I would use that as much as possible and enjoy the after-hours touring.

Staying in the room... and taking a bath or shower in that exquisite room would be wonderful. But what would kill it for me is that 7:30 wake up call for a 9AM checkout. I would love to sleep in and have breakfast delivered... sigh.

 

[The Mom]

I have to say that the article from this AP writer provides a unique perspective of the stay in Cindy's castle and all the bells and whistles that go with it.

The details about the hectic pre-planned schedule were interesting and confirmed my previously held notions that you won't get to spend a whole lot of time in the suite, enjoying your spoils. For me, the best part of the whole deal is the front of the line escort. I would use that as much as possible and enjoy the after-hours touring.

Staying in the room... and taking a bath or shower in that exquisite room would be wonderful. But what would kill it for me is that 7:30 wake up call for a 9AM checkout. I would love to sleep in and have breakfast delivered... sigh.

I wonder if there would be a problem if you put some "adult" beverage in your luggage? :lookaroun Seriously, I would want to celebrate with a little bubbly, wouldn't you? :ROFLOL:

 

[Hakunamatata]

I wonder if there would be a problem if you put some "adult" beverage in your luggage? :lookaroun Seriously, I would want to celebrate with a little bubbly, wouldn't you? :ROFLOL:

I wonder if you asked for a multitude of peasants to stand in a huddled mass outside your window, so you could stand from your balcony and wave at them with that queen parade pivoting wrist type wave, if they would comply with your wishes?:lookaroun

 

[WDWFanatic]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA:ROFLOL:


Think they will add it to the vacation club?? How many points will it take?

 

[The Mom]

I wonder if you asked for a multitude of peasants to stand in a huddled mass outside your window, so you could stand from your balcony and wave at them with that queen parade pivoting wrist type wave, if they would comply with your wishes?:lookaroun

Do you think they would give me a REAL tiara? (none of that rhinestone stuff) :lol: I might even be willing to forego the champagne for that.

 

[Hakunamatata]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA:ROFLOL:


Think they will add it to the vacation club?? How many points will it take?

Oooooh.....now thats a thought. The newest DVC property...Cindis place...:ROFLOL:

 

[hokielutz]

I wonder if there would be a problem if you put some "adult" beverage in your luggage? :lookaroun Seriously, I would want to celebrate with a little bubbly, wouldn't you? :ROFLOL:

Now that you mention it... I would try and smuggle some bubbly or another choice "adult beverage" in with my day-bag.

They don't do a TSA screening of our bags before going into the castle, do they? Or ask questions about whether you are bringing any non-Disney consumable substances?

 

[Hakunamatata]

Now that you mention it... I would try and smuggle some bubbly or another choice "adult beverage" in with my day-bag.

They don't do a TSA screening of our bags before going into the castle, do they? Or ask questions about whether you are bringing any non-Disney consumable substances?

Well, they may actually do some fairly intense screening because of the missile silos