YOMD stoops to new lows

Enderikari

Well-Known Member
We won the pin lanyards as we were coming off SSE. At least fifty people won it, and it was probably more like 100. They just stood there in the little hallway as you get off the ride vehicle and basically tossed them at you when you were walking by. I dont call that random, and its not random.

??? That's your GRAND REVELATION ??? That happens everyday for the lower-tiered prizes.. A random location is chosen to be a spot at a random time and a random number of prizes are given out... The small prizes are given out in bulk, but their locations and times of distribution are random
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
??? That's your GRAND REVELATION ??? That happens everyday for the lower-tiered prizes.. A random location is chosen to be a spot at a random time and a random number of prizes are given out... The small prizes are given out in bulk, but their locations and times of distribution are random

Is my GRAND REVELATION not accurate? Is standing at the exit to an attraction handing out prizes to 100s of people as they come off not random? Further, it happens there a number of times a day, daily. We saw a number of people with YOMD stuff that stated that they got it at SE.

So how about backing up off of me a little?
 
We won the pin lanyards as we were coming off SSE. At least fifty people won it, and it was probably more like 100. They just stood there in the little hallway as you get off the ride vehicle and basically tossed them at you when you were walking by. I dont call that random, and its not random.

Right, they definitely don't have different procedures for small prizes that they hand out hundreds of and something of incredible visibility with very limited supply. I appreciate your first hand knowledge, but its not enough to generalize about the entire contest. How much do you want to bet that someone from legal is standing next to the CM who awards the castle?
 

Enderikari

Well-Known Member
Is my GRAND REVELATION not accurate? Is standing at the exit to an attraction handing out prizes to 100s of people as they come off not random? Further, it happens there a number of times a day, daily. We saw a number of people with YOMD stuff that stated that they got it at SE.

So how about backing up off of me a little?

No.. it is random... The location they are giving out the lanyards, or the fastpasses, or the dream hats, are all given out at a random location inside a Disney theme park at a random time... For example, the information would go out to give the first 48 people to come to the left turnstile of Pirates of the Caribbean beginning at 11:28 AM... Sounds pretty random to me
 

Captain Hank

Well-Known Member
We won the pin lanyards as we were coming off SSE. At least fifty people won it, and it was probably more like 100. They just stood there in the little hallway as you get off the ride vehicle and basically tossed them at you when you were walking by. I dont call that random, and its not random.
Actually, it is random. The computer randomly picks a location to hand out a random number of the smaller prizes at a random time. For example, the Dream Squad members were told to proceed to the exit of Spaceship Earth at a randomly chosen time that day and then hand out a certain number of the dream lanyards to guests exiting the attraction. There is no way to determine who will be on each attraction at any particular time. Furthermore, each attraction exit or other location is equally likely to be chosen.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
Right, they definitely don't have different procedures for small prizes that they hand out hundreds of and something of incredible visibility with very limited supply. I appreciate your first hand knowledge, but its not enough to generalize about the entire contest. How much do you want to bet that someone from legal is standing next to the CM who awards the castle?

Which supports my orriginal comment that more than likely, Disney is not going to award that level of a prize directly to a child.
 
Is standing at the exit to an attraction handing out prizes to 100s of people as they come off not random?


It could be entirely random. Randomness does not require single winners at a time, a set is equally valid. And everyone should calm down :wave: , all that anyone is proving is that this was clearly an awful marketing strategy.
 

Iakona

Member
We won the pin lanyards as we were coming off SSE. At least fifty people won it, and it was probably more like 100. They just stood there in the little hallway as you get off the ride vehicle and basically tossed them at you when you were walking by. I dont call that random, and its not random.

Why isn't it random? The envelope probably said go to this spot, at this time and hand out this many lanyards.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
There are indeed different methods for giving out batch prizes and individual prizes, but both are already predetermined.

If, on any given day, a location in a Disney Property is randomly selected: a time for awarding of the prize will also be randomly selected. As mentioned above, Sponsor anticipates that potential winners will be selected at the Disney Properties between opening and 5 pm local time; however, certain prizes (for example, Mickey Mouse Penthouse and Cinderella Castle Suite) are likely to be awarded early in the day to help ensure that a winner will be able to claim the prize and Sponsor reserves the right in its sole discretion to select winners at the Disney Properties during any operating hours. Then, Disney Dream Squad Members ("Dream Squad") will arrive at the randomly selected location and: (i) in the case of a single prize, subject to Sponsor's initial verification process, the first person present at that randomly selected location and time will be notified that he/she is a potential winner of the prize; or (ii) in the case of a Batch of the same prize being awarded at the same time, subject to Sponsor's initial verification process, the first number of people matching the number of prizes in that Batch at that randomly selected location and time will be notified that each is a potential winner of one (1) of the prizes in the Batch. For certain prizes that are only good for an event at a Disney Property on the same day or evening as the day the prize is awarded, the potential winner may be required to tell the Dream Squad members(s) (or, if the winner is a Minor, his/her parent/legal guardian must tell the Dream Squad member(s)) whether or not he/she wants to claim the prize won within two (2) hours of being selected as a potential winner. The prize descriptions at the end of these Official Rules contain more information about event and day specific prizes. Decisions as to the selection of winners and the identity of the first person or persons present at a randomly selected location and time are subject to the Dream Squad's sole discretion and the Dream Squad's decisions on these matters will be final and binding. Only Dream Squad members can designate a potential winner at the Disney Properties.
 

Captain Hank

Well-Known Member
Which supports my orriginal comment that more than likely, Disney is not going to award that level of a prize directly to a child.
Legally, they would have to, assuming that the child in question were in the right place at the right time. As previously posted, there are proceedures in place to deal with this, involving the child's parent or guardian in the award process.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
Random
1. proceeding, made, or occurring without definite aim, reason, or pattern: the random selection of numbers.
2. Statistics. of or characterizing a process of selection in which each item of a set has an equal probability of being chosen.
3. Building Trades. a. (of building materials) lacking uniformity of dimensions: random shingles.
b. (of ashlar) laid without continuous courses.
c. constructed or applied without regularity: random bond.

–noun 4. Chiefly British. bank3 (def. 7b).
–adverb 5. Building Trades. without uniformity: random-sized slates.
—Idiom6. at random, without definite aim, purpose, method, or adherence to a prior arrangement; in a haphazard way: Contestants were chosen at random from the studio audience.

I somehow dont see handing all people exiting an attraction at a given time and location selected by a computer fitting the definityion of random.

Im not saying that Disney has a duty to make it random, frankly, I could care less if didnt just hand them out at the gate in the morning until the supply was deleted for the day. My point was orriginally stated to indicate that there may be an element of randomness involved, but that the process in whole is not a purely random process.
 

unkadug

Follower of "Saget"The Cult
I somehow dont see handing all people exiting an attraction at a given time and location selected by a computer fitting the definition of random.
Im not saying that Disney has a duty to make it random, frankly, I could care less if didnt just hand them out at the gate in the morning until the supply was deleted for the day. My point was orriginally stated to indicate that there may be an element of randomness involved, but that the process in whole is not a purely random process.

It's not.

It's more random for the guest, in that the areas are predetermined, but the guest has no clue where they should be in order to win.
 
I somehow dont see handing all people exiting an attraction at a given time and location selected by a computer fitting the definityion of random.

"2. Statistics. of or characterizing a process of selection in which each item of a set has an equal probability of being chosen."

Here, the set is not every individual, but every group of 100 (say) in the park. Every group of 100 has an equal chance to win a lanyard as any other group on 100, satisfying the definition.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
"2. Statistics. of or characterizing a process of selection in which each item of a set has an equal probability of being chosen."

Here, the set is not every individual, but every group of 100 (say) in the park. Every group of 100 has an equal chance to win a lanyard as any other group on 100, satisfying the definition.

Thank you. That makes sense. Now I can get on with more significant things in my life. :lol: :lol: :ROFLOL: :lol: :lol:
 

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