DisneyGentleman
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Ergo it is not an attraction.
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Yeti is indeed being fixed! Update 8/4/2014
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Seabasealpha1
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Okay...so hang on...
Is it the concrete at the base of the yeti support structure or is it something in the yeti animatronic or something mounted to the sled...?
This whole time I thought perhaps it was a cracked concrete footer...or at least that's what I've been hearing...
AND...
As a non-related bit, why isn't there some sort of counter-weight to this figure...seems like a lot of tug off to one side of basically everything when all that weight reaches down...is THAT how it "threw it's back out" like my pop reaching for a beer in a low refrigerator?
G00fyDad
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Again, no. It is the sled that the yeti is attached to. The whole thing is an arm that attaches to the Yeti's back. That arm is fixed to a sliding mechanism that thrusts outward. That mechanism is what is cracked/broken.
BoarderPhreak
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I wouldn't read into the tarp too much. It's customary to cover a dead body...
Seabasealpha1
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Okay. Got it.
So was there cracked concrete at some point or where did this originate from?
And then I'll assume that the real ordeal lies in getting a newly fabricated arm/sled into the mountain to fix it?
G00fyDad
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Yes. It is going to take a new "sled", or mechanical arm on a sliding shelf to fix it. Hopefully they utilize carbon nanotubing instead of the metal in every spot they can.
Soarin' Over Pgh
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...I'm sure it's been mentioned but I don't recall.
How much did the yeti and its support structures initially cost?
How much did the yeti and its support structures initially cost?
If I had to guess, it came out of thin air.
Rumors came out that there was a problem with its base/foundation. People hear that and think concrete and viola! You have a cracked concrete rumor.
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lazyboy97o
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Or people hypothesizing about something that would be difficult and costly to fix, to explain the ever increasing amount of time in B Mode, and with enough repetition it soon becomes stated as fact. Just like the licensing deal for the Chinese Theater expiring or the at times widely escalating costs of MyMagic+.
Agreed. It never ceases to amaze me how a little piece of unsubstantiated info can grow and evolve into a rumor then into an accepted fact in no time these days.
PREMiERdrum
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I think the initial reports mentioned "cracks in the structure" and everybody assumed structure = foundation.
ABQ
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Well if there are cracks in the steel framework either they have terrible engineers working weight/force loads out or they used some seriously poor steel, or craptacular welding.
Then again, it may not be cracks at all.
JillC LI
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I've ridden E:E once to see what it was like, and since I'm a big chicken about drops, I didn't plan to ride it again. However, if the Yeti is fixed, I guess I will have to ride it one more time for the full ride experience! (Did the same thing on ToT: the first time I agreed to try it with my kids, certain effects were not working so they convinced me to ride it again to experience it properly. I did. And now I don't have to again! LOL)
Alektronic
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It is not the Engineering that was the problem. The problem is who maintains it, once it is turned over to DAK Operations the DAK Attractions Maintenance dept takes care of it. There is no engineers there, mainly mechanics and electricians who work on Ride and Show equipment. A lot of the mechanics are old auto mechanics or airplane mechanics who have crescent wrenches and hammers. So they have to take care of a sophisticated piece of machinery. So the problem is really with management, making you have the right people working on the right equipment.
It was the same way over at CTX/Dinosaur, they didn't use the experienced people right, when you have Audio-Animatronic experts with 20 - 25 years of experience, they didn't use them. They just used a lot of inexperienced mechanics with no animation training because they figured it was the same thing as a forklift or front end loader. So they made all of the adjustments and replaced parts, sometimes the wrong ones or in the wrong position or didn't pay attention to the settings. Mostly, creating more problems than they fixed.
ABQ
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OK, I had the impression the sled or whatever, broke due to poor engineering or construction as opposed to poor maintenance. As it did not operate properly very long. Thanks so much for the clarification and insight as always.
Good point. None of us really know for sure. It would seem to make more sense that it was an engineering issue for it to go wrong so quickly. If it was a maintenance issue that ultimately caused a major structural problem, that's possible, I suppose. Either way, if the problem causes a risk of the yeti collapsing onto the track, it's understandable why they turned it off.
But it still doesn't explain why something better than disco yeti wasn't put in place.
Mawg
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Someone should update Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expedition_Everest
As it too states damage to concrete foundation.
Then there was also a post on that Plural of Mouse and chatting website that I shall not name in 2011 who also claimed the steel and concrete foundation was cracked.
At any rate, I'm not going to assume anyone knows the extent of the damage as no information has ever been publically made. Disney has gotten worse over the years at fixing it's animatronics in a timely fashion but eventually does. I believe/assume (opinion) that if a fix was available that could be done in a timely manner, they would have done it prior to now. And, that a lack of E tickets in AK weighed heavily in their decision (not that it should have).
Over the next few years AK is going to be getting a lot of publicity with first a new nighttime show and eventually Avatarland. Will all of this overshadow a broken Yeti or will the media take this opportunity to point out that Disney has had a broken Yeti for 10 years (by the time Avatarland is completed it will be this long) thus taking away from their great achievement. Even though the risk might be small and Disney has a way with steering the media away from topics they do not want to discuss, it's a risk and may be one Disney wants to avoid. With any major addition to a park it's great to have the park in tip top condition so that it can receive the full attention it deserves. If the Yeti is ever going to be fixed it would seem this is the time to do it. I'm hopeful that I will one day see A mode but the realistic side of me believes that I will only see B+ mode with a limited range of movement.
As it too states damage to concrete foundation.
Then there was also a post on that Plural of Mouse and chatting website that I shall not name in 2011 who also claimed the steel and concrete foundation was cracked.
At any rate, I'm not going to assume anyone knows the extent of the damage as no information has ever been publically made. Disney has gotten worse over the years at fixing it's animatronics in a timely fashion but eventually does. I believe/assume (opinion) that if a fix was available that could be done in a timely manner, they would have done it prior to now. And, that a lack of E tickets in AK weighed heavily in their decision (not that it should have).
Over the next few years AK is going to be getting a lot of publicity with first a new nighttime show and eventually Avatarland. Will all of this overshadow a broken Yeti or will the media take this opportunity to point out that Disney has had a broken Yeti for 10 years (by the time Avatarland is completed it will be this long) thus taking away from their great achievement. Even though the risk might be small and Disney has a way with steering the media away from topics they do not want to discuss, it's a risk and may be one Disney wants to avoid. With any major addition to a park it's great to have the park in tip top condition so that it can receive the full attention it deserves. If the Yeti is ever going to be fixed it would seem this is the time to do it. I'm hopeful that I will one day see A mode but the realistic side of me believes that I will only see B+ mode with a limited range of movement.
boufa
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While we are discussing unknowns... It also could be that there is not a suitable replacement option for whatever is broken. These guys spend millions of dollars inventing things that you can't buy on a shelf. Who knows if they even have any practical idea for a long term repair. Could be that the money needed to develop the repair itself could be the hold up. There is no Yeti-Mart where spare parts can be ordered.
Despite what the arm chair, never actually seen the equipment experts may think.
Seabasealpha1
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I would totally shop at yeti-mart.
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