unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
That would be implying that they are currently maintaining the monorail pylons regularly.
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Yes, another monorail thread!
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Goofyernmost
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That would have been a good thing to clarify much earlier, because you kept talking about monorails instead of light rail or people movers. There is a huge difference in those things and each one can contain it's own argument for feasibility or not. The monorail, for many reasons besides cost, are not ever going to be feasible. Not the least of which is the danger of a monorail train broken down on a rail 30 feet in the air. Something at ground level would not have that risk.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
I do agree with you but stuff on ground level poses it's own safety risks as well.
I certainly feel safer both as a passenger and as a ground dweller when high speed transit is at a significant distance from myself.
I keep saying monorail because the company seems to have chosen this option. A key indicator is when they said they will buy new automated trains. So, they are basically locked in to this.
They could stay at ground level wherever there's no intersections. But it should bridge over all streets. If it's not grade separated, it's a lot more dangerous.
All Disney All The Time
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We have a tradition of no matter where we are staying at WDW, we always head for the TTC when we are going to the MK and take the ferry boat in and the monorail out. To us there is nothing better than watching the Castle get bigger and bigger as we get closer to the MK and ending our day there by taking the monorail to Epcot for the "tour". Sometimes we then head into Epcot, sometimes we then take the bus from Epcot back to our hotel, but that's always the way we go into the MK.
Also, this was leaked awhile ago before Disney Springs was announced. This shows how even Disney Springs can grow beyond the two parking garages planned. The garage across the street with the elevated walkway could potentially double as a monorail/peoplemover station.
That's actually what started me down the path which became this thread.
That's actually what started me down the path which became this thread.
The following image is from the 90's. This was when the state planned High Speed Rail service from Tampa to Miami. This was the attempt before the most recent project was cancelled by Gov. Rick Scott. This HSR project was killed by then-Gov. Jeb Bush. Anyway, this was a time when enthusiasm for high-tech transit was at an all-time high in Florida. Besides HSR, the I-Drive businesses were talking about building their own peoplemover system. There was also talk of building a county-wide maglev system connecting Disney, I-Drive, and the airport. At its peek, Disney was also willing to extend their monorail system to a new station that would serve the Maglev line. All the parties worked all the details of all these interconnected systems behind closed doors. It was practically a done deal. Then, out of nowhere, Bush cancelled HSR and everything unraveled! The feelings of people like me who followed it went from euphoria to depression in .0006 seconds! We don't talk about it because the thought alone can trigger a deep depression. History shows that when hope reaches a peek, without warning, that hope is suddenly shattered to bits and pieces - as what happened when Gov. Scott killed the last attempt to build HSR, because anything that was planned to tie into it dies with it.
Any way, this image shows the alignments of all the systems that were planned for Central Florida during the 90's when prospects were most enthusiastic. Excuse the poor quality. I'm just lucky to actually have a copy of it. "Many Bothans died to bring us this information"...
Any way, this image shows the alignments of all the systems that were planned for Central Florida during the 90's when prospects were most enthusiastic. Excuse the poor quality. I'm just lucky to actually have a copy of it. "Many Bothans died to bring us this information"...
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Here are two pictures of the alleged monorail foundation backstage at Epcot. If I had to guess I would say it's actually some sort of sewer access.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
Or underground missile silo cover.Here are two pictures of the alleged monorail foundation backstage at Epcot. If I had to guess I would say it's actually some sort of sewer access.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Do you know where these are exactly?Here are two pictures of the alleged monorail foundation backstage at Epcot. If I had to guess I would say it's actually some sort of sewer access.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
That is what you are showing labeled Monorail Foundation in this picture. Picture on the left is from 2012 the one on the right from 2013.
Oh, okay. Same ones.That is what you are showing labeled Monorail Foundation in this picture. Picture on the left is from 2012 the one on the right from 2013.
RedDad
Smitty Werben JagerManJensen
Um...no.
RedDad
Smitty Werben JagerManJensen
Looks like a stormwater junction box to me.Here are two pictures of the alleged monorail foundation backstage at Epcot. If I had to guess I would say it's actually some sort of sewer access.
Um... Why?
If the vehicles are no heavier than automobiles, why can't they? If the vehicles run on electricity supplied by the rail, they don't have to carry gasoline, which saves an aweful lot of weight.
If it can support buses, it definitely can support an electric transit system.
RedDad
Smitty Werben JagerManJensen
Oh dear. Ok, I'm going to answer this one and then move on with my life...I design and evaluate highway bridges as part of my job, so I can say I'm not just going on a hunch here. They are completely different animals. And seriously, the weight of gasoline in a vehicle is negligible.