Yankees get Damon

DisneyFreak529

DisneyFreak529

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I'm a Yankee fan & I'm happy with the choice to buy him. I saw him on a new report & he did get a hair cut & he cleaned up his hair. He looked really good, like a Yankee.

I will admit he didn't wait to see if the Redsocks would give him more money he just took the Yankee money & contract for 4 years.
 
Wilt Dasney

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Pongo said:
Where can I find pictures?
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Wilt Dasney

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Good opinion piece on this by Soxbard Bill Simmons at ESPN.com. A snippet:

Bill Simmons said:
Anyway, if you're a Red Sox fan, I hope you learned two things this week. First, the Sox-Yankees feud matters infinitely more to us than it does to the players. That's why these guys have no problem switching sides. They just don't give a crap. Sadly, we do. And second, to paraphrase Ordway, it's almost always about the money. Bonds left Pittsburgh. Clemens left Boston. Shaq left Orlando. Kareem left Milwaukee. Giambi left Oakland. Walton left Portland. Mussina left Baltimore. Kemp left Seattle. A-Rod and Griffey left Seattle. Within the next three years, LeBron will leave Cleveland. With only a few exceptions, it's ALLLLLLLLL-ways about the money.

Johnny Damon? He's just the latest reminder. And sure, I'm rooting against him next season and plan on booing him in person when I have the chance. But Damon's departure didn't taint 2004 for me ... if anything, he reminded me that most of these guys come and go, that it's impossible to keep even the most beloved teams intact for long. Since Oct. 27, 2004, the same night Schilling raised a champagne bottle and gave his famous "To the greatest Red Sox team ever!" toast in St. Louis, could anyone have imagined that two-thirds of his teammates would belong to other teams within 14 months?

But hey, that's sports in the 21st century -- you win a championship, the moment passes, and that's that. In some cases, like with Pedro, Mueller, Lowe and Damon, employees leverage their situations into lucrative contracts with other franchises. In other cases, like with Millar, Bellhorn and Embree, companies cut the cord and try to find someone more productive. And once in awhile, you have someone like Varitek agreeing to stick around at a slightly reduced rate, and only because he's happy where he is. But everyone makes the decision based on what's best for him. That's how the real world works.

The question remains: If you were Johnny Damon, would you have passed up $12 million to return to a team that didn't really seem to want you back? Didn't think so. He's not Anakin, he's not Judas, he's not the Reverse Earl Hickey. He's just another businessman who followed the money and never looked back.

In other words, he's a professional athlete.
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SpongeScott

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Wilt Dasney said:
Good opinion piece on this by Soxbard Bill Simmons at ESPN.com. A snippet:
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*splitting hairs*

Kareem didn't "leave" Milwaukee. He was traded to the Lakers.

*/splitting hairs*
 
Lil'mermaid

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Wilt Dasney said:
Good opinion piece on this by Soxbard Bill Simmons at ESPN.com. A snippet:
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I read this one too, and yeah, its one of the better pieces I've seen. Personally I like when they blame Damon for ruining Christmas. :lookaroun :lol:
 
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wdwfreak05

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Number_6 said:
How about one that was all over the news for some time? I give you... Maurice Clarett: http://www.mtulode.com/index.php?issuedate=2004-11-17&section=12&artid=3833
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"It was alleged that he received numerous gifts from boosters and coaches, something that is against NCAA Bylaw 10.12."

ALLEGED!! Do you know what that word even means?

I'll tell you what, give me one news article writen AFTER the NCAA investigation and then we shall talk! BTW, you are going to be searching for a VERY long time because there were no articles writen after the investigation convicting them of any wrongdoing.
 
Number_6

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wdwfreak05 said:
"It was alleged that he received numerous gifts from boosters and coaches, something that is against NCAA Bylaw 10.12."

ALLEGED!! Do you know what that word even means?

I'll tell you what, give me one news article writen AFTER the NCAA investigation and then we shall talk! BTW, you are going to be searching for a VERY long time because there were no articles writen after the investigation convicting them of any wrongdoing.
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First off, I know what alleged means, thank you. I also know that if you read the rest of that article, written the year after the investigation, then you would find this part here:
Cast out of Columbus for being a liar and a cheat, Clarett had nowhere to turn. The boosters whom he claimed had been there for his every need were suddenly too busy for him. Coach Jim Tressel, the same man who took him in and treated him like a son, had turned his back. Recently, he has claimed that Ohio State University knew all along about the free cars and the mystery cash and even falsified grades to allow for his eligibility. Since then, many former teammates have backed up his story. The school has refuted every claim and an investigation is currently under way.
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He admitted to it and a huge deal was made about it. Trust me, all I tend to listen to is Sports Radio, so I heard more than enough about all this. The investigation that at the time of that article was "currently under way" was just how much Ohio State knew about the gifts he accepted, not if he had accepted them or not since he had already admitted to it. The article that I had posted the link to was written posted on November 17, 2004. Another one from November 9 2004: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1919059

Both are from the year after he admitted to everything. Now, if you would rather one that is on a related matter that brings up Clarett again because it has to do with a teammate, then here have this one: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/2005-01-11-osu-smith-clarett_x.htm

It is from January 11, 2005 and it says at one point:
Clarett was suspended for the 2003 season after he was caught lying to university and NCAA investigators about accepting gifts and extra benefits. Among the benefits was a cell phone given to Clarett by Robert Dellimuti, who runs a catering business in Warren.
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And so, I rest my case. Thank you. Next time, try reading everything instead of just the first two paragraphs. ;)
 
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wdwfreak05

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Number_6 said:
First off, I know what alleged means, thank you. I also know that if you read the rest of that article, written the year after the investigation, then you would find this part here:


He admitted to it and a huge deal was made about it. Trust me, all I tend to listen to is Sports Radio, so I heard more than enough about all this. The investigation that at the time of that article was "currently under way" was just how much Ohio State knew about the gifts he accepted, not if he had accepted them or not since he had already admitted to it. The article that I had posted the link to was written posted on November 17, 2004. Another one from November 9 2004: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1919059

Both are from the year after he admitted to everything. Now, if you would rather one that is on a related matter that brings up Clarett again because it has to do with a teammate, then here have this one: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/2005-01-11-osu-smith-clarett_x.htm

It is from January 11, 2005 and it says at one point:


And so, I rest my case. Thank you. Next time, try reading everything instead of just the first two paragraphs. ;)
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And what has the NCAA done to the university? NOTHING!

The NCAA (not these idiot sports writers) has the final say in any type of alleged violations. The NCAA came to Columbus they investigated for 3 whole months and they found that Ohio State was guilty of absolutely nothing. If anything, they were praised for suspending Clarrett before the NCAA had to take action.
 
Number_6

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wdwfreak05 said:
And what has the NCAA done to the university? NOTHING!

The NCAA (not these idiot sports writers) has the final say in any type of alleged violations. The NCAA came to Columbus they investigated for 3 whole months and they found that Ohio State was guilty of absolutely nothing. If anything, they were praised for suspending Clarrett before the NCAA had to take action.
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But what the NCAA did or did not do to the college was not what you were going off about before. I pointed out that the only investigation that was taking place at the time of those articles was the one into the College's actions since you asked me to show you an article from after the investigation into Clarett. Please don't try to make it look like you made your point, because you didn't. You said "I'll tell you what, give me one news article writen AFTER the NCAA investigation and then we shall talk!" Well, I gave you three written after the investigation into Clarett's actions, including one with comments from Clarett himself admitting that he accepted gifts. You wanted proof of any player doing it which is what started this part of the conversation in the first place, and it has been given. Stop backpedalling, admit to yourself that there are NCAA players that will take money from sources they shouldn't and let's move along back to the topic of this thread.

The Yankees shouldn't have forced Johnny Damon to cut his hair and shave his beard. When he did it for charity, it was good karma, but now that he's done it just because he is on the Yankees is going to be some bad juju... :D
 
stingrock23

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I agree totally with what Bill Simmons said.

The Yankees still, and will always, suck. They still won't win a title. You can't just accumulate players like that and have it pay off. It just won't work that way.

Stupid yankees.
 
Number_6

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stingrock23 said:
I agree totally with what Bill Simmons said.

The Yankees still, and will always, suck. They still won't win a title. You can't just accumulate players like that and have it pay off. It just won't work that way.

Stupid yankees.
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*cough* Marlins! *cough*

Sorry about that. Don't know where that came from. ;)
 
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wdwfreak05

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Number_6 said:
But what the NCAA did or did not do to the college was not what you were going off about before. I pointed out that the only investigation that was taking place at the time of those articles was the one into the College's actions since you asked me to show you an article from after the investigation into Clarett. Please don't try to make it look like you made your point, because you didn't. You said "I'll tell you what, give me one news article writen AFTER the NCAA investigation and then we shall talk!" Well, I gave you three written after the investigation into Clarett's actions, including one with comments from Clarett himself admitting that he accepted gifts. You wanted proof of any player doing it which is what started this part of the conversation in the first place, and it has been given. Stop backpedalling, admit to yourself that there are NCAA players that will take money from sources they shouldn't and let's move along back to the topic of this thread.

The Yankees shouldn't have forced Johnny Damon to cut his hair and shave his beard. When he did it for charity, it was good karma, but now that he's done it just because he is on the Yankees is going to be some bad juju... :D
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Ok i will admit that SOME players do get exttra benefits from outside sources. HOWEVER, in the case of Maurice Clarrett it was NEVER proven. Which shows that he was indeed lying about the situation due to his anger with Ohio State for suspending him for the season.

Look, you're an intelligent individual so please work with me on this one. Think about it, anyone can say anything to the media and the media will report it wether its legit or not. I mean, i could go right now and tell the media that I gave Clarrett money to play (which is obviously false) and they would still believe it just because its a good story.

It's kind of funny to me, that same New York Times reporter (hack) that broke the Clarrett story has since been fired from the NYT due to... get this... FALSIFYING HIS ARTICLES! hmmmmmm coincidence? I THINK NOT!!!
 

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