Lee
Adventurer
I don't think that's possible for Disney....
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
Y'all should ...
- Thread starter WDW1974
- Start date
flynnibus
Premium Member
They did ramp down.. you don't see the birthday giveaways.. you don't see the same type of 2fer things going on in DL.. the room only discounts are smaller and less frequent... free dining isn't as common, and gets announced later.
They did cut back discounting from the peak, but they still manipulate free dining heavily to influence booking.
Yensid1974
Well-Known Member
Just looking for confirmation here on something that has been brought up. Is spending on the normal cycle of refurbishments/maintenance on the attractions/rides part of capex or does it fall under another heading of normal yearly spending? Just doesn't seem like capex for new projects would also be the same pile of money used for regular maintenance and refurbishments, but I acknowledge I could be wrong.
Cosmic Commando
Well-Known Member
Do you really think free dining is less frequent? I am only one person and not a travel agent so I don't have the whole picture, but free dining seems to be everywhere! Mousesavers has a list of discounts going back to 2009 with the stay dates and the booking dates. 2009 and 2010: free dining in the fall. 2011 and 2012: free dining in January, February, March, Memorial Day Weekend in 2011, and in addition to the normal "August/Sept then extended through December" free dining. They even had free dining available for the shiny new Art of Animation this year! Again, I don't have the whole picture, but I'd hardly say that free dining is less common or announced significantly later.
Cosmic Commando
Well-Known Member
lol, it's a safe place here; you don't have to speak in code.
Was Tony's thing the Frontierland plot, or did he have something he was working on in Tomorrowland, too? I just assumed, given his history, that he would be in Frontierland. The rumors have been saying that there will be two major projects at DL.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
According to the accounting rules normal maintenance is not capitalized. In order to capitalize work on an existing asset the work needs to extend the useful life of the existing asset. If you refurbish something like a ride vehicle or a section of track you can probably justify that it extends the useful life. Something like a new roof or the replacement of a major component would also be capitalized. Things like painting, cosmetic upkeep or minor repairs would be expensed. I would assume a major overhaul like BTMRR had this year would be primarily capitalized. I assume TDO has a budget for maintenance and major repairs both capital and expense (many here would doubt that budget actually exists
). That budget would probably be kept separate from the budget for major new rides or attractions since different people would be managing them. I am not 100% sure on that since i dont have any inside info, just my assumption). At the end of the day it all ends up in the same place so even though they may be tracked separately they should probably be considered together.
Magenta Panther
Well-Known Member
doctornick
Well-Known Member
Regarding a possible Iron Man/Tommorrowland thing... it's interesting to note that such an attraction can't be copied at WDW. If that is a big draw E-ticket type, then perhaps it would make TDA less bothered by TDO cloning Carsland. Or, dare to dream, allow the Indy ride to come to Florida (maybe sometime in the future).
Lee
Adventurer
Looks like...still possible...no idea.
I like the ride system and its potential. Should be great for Tron in Shanghai.
Theming it to Pandora would pose some interesting challenges.
The maintenance/refurb budget is separate from the new attraction money.
flynnibus
Premium Member
It's hard to see external honestly.. because we don't see the capacity. But in the past, it was always available in the date window.. more recently there has been more reports of not getting what they first wanted.. and the availability (ancedotally) seems to be announced later. I do believe the overall discounts are down - but they are still there.
Lee
Adventurer
Nope.
cheezbat
Well-Known Member
I think if something isn't done to DHS in the next 3-4 years, there's going to be an even bigger attendance falloff. DAK isn't in much better shape, but it seems to be more fresh than DHS at the moment, so I wouldn't be surprised to see it stay in the #3 spot in attendance of the WDW parks.
That said, with the new offerings coming to Uni and Sea World, IF things don't get moving soon at DHS, WDW may lose more and more visitors opting to hit up the other attractions instead.
That said, with the new offerings coming to Uni and Sea World, IF things don't get moving soon at DHS, WDW may lose more and more visitors opting to hit up the other attractions instead.
Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
doctornick
Well-Known Member
I think this is particularly true since DHS is a park that where the experience is similar to that of USF/IOA and might be a more likely "skip" for guests vacationing in central Florida. MK/Epcot/DAK all offer a more unique theme park option to retain attendance (though stuff like Seaworld versus DAK is at least in the same genre).
I don't want to speak for the Panther, but, at least to me, Disneyland is sacred ground. I personally think only actual Disney properties should be included. And yes, I know Marvel is Disney now, but there's no connection there besides ownership and Marvel has a 50 year history before Disney.
I'm a Star Wars maniac, but I don't want to see Star Tours at DL either. It just doesn't work IMO. DCA is the perfect place for that stuff.
If that's the case, Disney needs to close Star Tours, Buzz Lightyear Astroblasters, Finding Nemo Submarines (both Pixar properties predate purchase), Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin, Indiana Jones Adventure, and Tom Sawyer Island.