Wookies, & Rebels, & Droids... OH WHY?! The Anti-SWL in Disneyland Thread

Mike S

Mike S

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BrianLo said:
I think you misunderstood me. In no way am I saying James Cameron is a better story maker, nor could the designers not create a compelling original product. I just try and set aside the executives motivation for funding projects from what WDI actually produces.

What I am saying is this will succeed in the realm of themed creativity, despite it not actually being ground up original and motivated by executives. Implicitly, despite these perceived flaws they managed to craft a far more befitting and fairly Animal Kingdom appropriate adaptation from a movie world. I think you are concluding that original ideas will always craft a better product and from what I know about both of them, this wouldn't have actually been the case.

It's apples to oranges, granted. We are talking about something dreamt up in the late 90's versus something designed in the last 5 years. Pandora is also far more expensive than Beastly Kingdomme would have been and betrays some small scale charm in favour of grandiosity. As a land this could be in the running for the most visually stunning built at the entire resort, Beastly Kingdomme would have not quite made the short-list, but they each served slightly different purposes and masters.

Adapting a land from works of fiction like novels, mythical tales or inspired by real world landmarks doesn't have to be creatively superior to adapting one from a fictional movie. It depends on what the designers do with it. I feel the same way about Star Wars that it's insulting to the WDI designers that people think they creatively had a far easier go than designing something from the ground up. They could have, but they took the far more difficult road of creating something new for the parks. That project isn't the case of Potter where movie sets were lifted and appropriated into a theme park setting. It was very much a re-imagining and purpose built land. It in every way fulfills the same "creativity" as New Orleans Square did by lifting and adapting real world structures.

I'm not saying we should totally ignore external factors like executives, IP mandates or serious placement concerns many have with quite a few upcoming projects. I just want to say they don't have to invalidate some of the things the creatives are doing with the hand they've been dealt.
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In a few cases for HP the interior of the Three Broomsticks was actually lifted from the park for the sixth movie. There's also that whole side street in Diagon Alley where the singer performs that they made a point of saying was made just for the park.
 
Disney Analyst

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Hearing a lot of people changing their tone after today's events.

It seems they finally see the impact and importance of Star Wars around the world.
 
Californian Elitist

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Evan-500 said:
Hearing a lot of people changing their tone after today's events.

It seems they finally see the impact and importance of Star Wars around the world.
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Carrie Fisher's death saddens me, and I'm sure Star Wars fans are hurting, but personally, Muhammad Ali's death made a bigger impact.

How does Fisher's death relate to Star Wars Land going somewhere it shouldn't? I don't think anyone in this thread expressed disdain for Star Wars Land as a whole. It is obvious Star Wars is an American icon that will be relevant for many more generations, and no ones has denied that. But Fisher's death and Star Wars' iconic status and its place in Americana doesn't change the opinion of this thread that an entire land dedicated to the Star Wars franchise shouldn't be built anywhere in the original Disney park. I see no correlation, especially since the entire cast of Star Wars will die at some point.
 
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Disney Analyst

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raven24 said:
Carrie Fisher's death saddens me, and I'm sure Star Wars fans are hurting, but personally, Muhammad Ali's death made a bigger impact.

How does Fisher's death relate to Star Wars Land going somewhere it shouldn't? I don't think anyone in this thread expressed disdain for Star Wars Land as a whole. It is obvious Star Wars is an American icon that will be relevant for many more generations, and no ones has denied that. But Fisher's death and Star Wars' iconic status and its place in Americana doesn't change the opinion of this thread that an entire land dedicated to the Star Wars franchise shouldn't be built anywhere in the original Disney park. I see no correlation, especially since the entire cast of Star Wars will die at some point.
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Let me clarify, I hold no opinion on the matter. I just thought it was interesting people who were
Against it are starting to be okay with it because of her passing.
 
Earl Sweatpants

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Evan-500 said:
Let me clarify, I hold no opinion on the matter. I just thought it was interesting people who were
Against it are starting to be okay with it because of her passing.
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That fact that Carrie Fisher passed away doesn't somehow mean SWL suddenly fits inside of DL. People are probably just softening to it out of general sadness and realizing life is short and spending energy hating something isn't a wise use of the time we have to live.
 
Californian Elitist

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^^^ Anyone who now approves this decision because of Fisher's death was never really against it anyway.

Do we have any hint as to whether the Canoes or coming back or not?
 
SSG

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raven24 said:
^^^ Anyone who now approves this decision because of Fisher's death was never really against it anyway.

Do we have any hint as to whether the Canoes or coming back or not?
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The park calendar has the canoes listed as closed for refurbishment along with the rest of the ROA attractions. Which implies that they will be back.
 
SSG

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raven24 said:
That's not enough for me, I need an official statement from Disney.

Just going to have to wait longer.
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Californian Elitist

Californian Elitist

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Evan-500 said:
I'm pretty sure they did confirm they were coming back. They haven't destroyed the canoe docks at all.
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Can't really trust Disney, unfortunately. This was years ago, but they also promised the Rocket Rods would return. More recently, they completely denied a Guardians of the Galaxy theme would be replacing the old Hollywood theme of the Tower of Terror.
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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raven24 said:
That's not enough for me, I need an official statement from Disney.
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raven24 said:
Can't really trust Disney, unfortunately. This was years ago, but they also promised the Rocket Rods would return. More recently, they completely denied a Guardians of the Galaxy theme would be replacing the old Hollywood theme of the Tower of Terror.
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So not sure what will bring you peace until we see them on the schedule :)
 

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