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Wish (Walt Disney Animation - November 2023)
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I loved Arrival… I remembered that being among my favorite movies. The year it came out, but what does that have to with Wish
Tha Realest
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Arrival is an absolute titanic achievement of filmmaking and acting that I don’t think I could ever watch again.
Phroobar
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Arrival is great if you think about what is happening. Her flashbacks are really flash forwards but in reverse. The aliens communicate in non-linear time and she is experiencing the same thing. It's cleaver.
Getting back on topic, we were talking about Princess Giselle and why she and Princess Eilonwy were ignored in Wish's end credits. I guess Asha will never be Disney Princesses either.
Yeah, I think Asha would have been made an "honorary" princess had the movie been a hit - even though the filmmakers went to pains saying one of the things that made her "perfectly imperfect" was that she was An Ordinary Person Like You the Viewer - and they sure pushed the merchandise for her.
In the wake of the disappointing announcements for future projects at D23 I continue to get the sense that Disney Corporate just can't accept why Wish bombed so badly - that it just wasn't a good movie that audiences became attached to, and that even the marketing couldn't cover that up - and instead would rather use its failure as an excuse not to do more original concepts and/or have diverse character lineups. It's sad, but Hollywood execs keep learning the wrong lessons from successes and failures.
In the wake of the disappointing announcements for future projects at D23 I continue to get the sense that Disney Corporate just can't accept why Wish bombed so badly - that it just wasn't a good movie that audiences became attached to, and that even the marketing couldn't cover that up - and instead would rather use its failure as an excuse not to do more original concepts and/or have diverse character lineups. It's sad, but Hollywood execs keep learning the wrong lessons from successes and failures.
The footage that's been posted at YouTube this week of the dress rehearsals reveals that it's the first segment of the show after the intro with Mickey and co. (followed by Frozen II, The Little Mermaid, The Lion King, and Moana).
(I think it's interesting that, while it was inevitable that not all the characters from the movie would appear in the segment for time reasons, the only two that are played by actual skaters are Asha and Magnifico, while props represent Valentino and Star. The skating extras are just the movie's background characters - they couldn't have worked in the Seven Teens?)
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The ShopDisney website currently has a similar blurb on the Wish-specific page, 9 months out from the movie's release! So clearly they haven't met that threshold yet.
Tha Realest
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I don’t disagree. I appreciated while I was watching it how remarkable the film was. The director’s works since show that was by no means a fluke. As a father, I just can’t imagine the anguish of reviving that film.
Same, incidentally, with Schindler’s List. I can’t rewatch it, and I’ve tried.
Twilight_Roxas
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Well for starters the animation in Enchanted wasn’t made by Walt Disney Animation Studios.
Phroobar
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What does that have to do with anything? They outsource all the time. It is still a Walt Disney Pictures movie.
Twilight_Roxas
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You mentioned the Wish credits.What does that have to do with anything? They outsource all the time. It is still a Walt Disney Pictures movie.
Okay, sorry to bump into this again and this may not a big deal for all of you, but ShopDisney just release a new limited edition classic doll of Asha. https://www.disneystore.com/asha-li...442.html?isProductSearch=1&searchType=regular It’s not much, but it’s better than nothing.
I get why they still had to release the back-to-school and Christmas items this year, but selling an extremely expensive ($99.99) doll now? They weren't this generous to Treasure Planet or Strange World!
Now that it's almost been a year, it's wild how this movie has been "memory-holed", as the youth like to say these days. Nobody cosplays the characters at conventions, no one dressed up as them for Halloween, and so much of the online chatter regarding Moana 2 is about "finally, a Classic Disney Villain again!" when the whole intended point of Magnifico was to serve that purpose. I really wonder how many people know Wish exists at all!
Now that it's almost been a year, it's wild how this movie has been "memory-holed", as the youth like to say these days. Nobody cosplays the characters at conventions, no one dressed up as them for Halloween, and so much of the online chatter regarding Moana 2 is about "finally, a Classic Disney Villain again!" when the whole intended point of Magnifico was to serve that purpose. I really wonder how many people know Wish exists at all!
Ghost93
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Wish is better than Moana 2 by a mile. I don't know if that's really a compliment to Wish or more of an indictment of Moana 2, but after leaving Moana 2 I started to think of Wish much more fondly.
I'll take "This Wish" (even with its nonsensical "throwing caution to every warning sign" line), "This is the Thanks I Get", "Knowing What I know Now" and "At All Costs" over any of the songs in Moana 2. Heck, I'd even take the animal song about how we are all stars over the Moana 2 music!
I‘m planning to see Moana 2 with a friend. I’m sorry you didn’t like Moana 2, but I’m glad that you’re respecting Wish more than you were last year. Thank you.
Ghost93
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I'm not sure what you are talking about, I gave Wish a pretty balanced review last year. Here is what I initially posted in November 2023 after I first saw the film:
Upon reflection I probably think Wish is more of a 6/10 film than a 7/10, but it's still not the disaster people act like it is.
Oh, I see. But thanks for not hating it.