Wish (Walt Disney Animation - November 2023)

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DKampy

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Phroobar said:
I enjoyed Any Adams in Enchanted. I thought she was fantastic in Arrival. Both are far better movies than Wish could even dream of being.
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I loved Arrival… I remembered that being among my favorite movies. The year it came out, but what does that have to with Wish
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Tha Realest said:
Arrival is an absolute titanic achievement of filmmaking and acting that I don’t think I could ever watch again.
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Arrival is great if you think about what is happening. Her flashbacks are really flash forwards but in reverse. The aliens communicate in non-linear time and she is experiencing the same thing. It's cleaver.

Getting back on topic, we were talking about Princess Giselle and why she and Princess Eilonwy were ignored in Wish's end credits. I guess Asha will never be Disney Princesses either.
 
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Miss Rori

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Yeah, I think Asha would have been made an "honorary" princess had the movie been a hit - even though the filmmakers went to pains saying one of the things that made her "perfectly imperfect" was that she was An Ordinary Person Like You the Viewer - and they sure pushed the merchandise for her.

In the wake of the disappointing announcements for future projects at D23 I continue to get the sense that Disney Corporate just can't accept why Wish bombed so badly - that it just wasn't a good movie that audiences became attached to, and that even the marketing couldn't cover that up - and instead would rather use its failure as an excuse not to do more original concepts and/or have diverse character lineups. It's sad, but Hollywood execs keep learning the wrong lessons from successes and failures.
 
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Miss Rori

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Phroobar said:
These things are planned far in advance that they kept it in the show regardless of how poorly it did. I just hope the show doesn't build to it.
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The footage that's been posted at YouTube this week of the dress rehearsals reveals that it's the first segment of the show after the intro with Mickey and co. (followed by Frozen II, The Little Mermaid, The Lion King, and Moana).

(I think it's interesting that, while it was inevitable that not all the characters from the movie would appear in the segment for time reasons, the only two that are played by actual skaters are Asha and Magnifico, while props represent Valentino and Star. The skating extras are just the movie's background characters - they couldn't have worked in the Seven Teens?)
 
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Miss Rori

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WorldExplorer said:
There are little plaques sometimes near the Wish merchandise saying they're part of a collaboration with Make-A-Wish. 10% of the price goes to the charity, up to a million.

I wonder how that went.
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The ShopDisney website currently has a similar blurb on the Wish-specific page, 9 months out from the movie's release! So clearly they haven't met that threshold yet.
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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Phroobar said:
Arrival is great if you think about what is happening. Her flashbacks are really flash forwards but in reverse. The aliens communicate in non-linear time and she is experiencing the same thing. It's cleaver.
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I don’t disagree. I appreciated while I was watching it how remarkable the film was. The director’s works since show that was by no means a fluke. As a father, I just can’t imagine the anguish of reviving that film.

Same, incidentally, with Schindler’s List. I can’t rewatch it, and I’ve tried.
 
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Twilight_Roxas

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Phroobar said:
Arrival is great if you think about what is happening. Her flashbacks are really flash forwards but in reverse. The aliens communicate in non-linear time and she is experiencing the same thing. It's cleaver.

Getting back on topic, we were talking about Princess Giselle and why she and Princess Eilonwy were ignored in Wish's end credits. I guess Asha will never be Disney Princesses either.
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Well for starters the animation in Enchanted wasn’t made by Walt Disney Animation Studios.
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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Twilight_Roxas said:
Well for starters the animation in Enchanted wasn’t made by Walt Disney Animation Studios.
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What does that have to do with anything? They outsource all the time. It is still a Walt Disney Pictures movie.

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AndyS2992

AndyS2992

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Disney isn’t going anywhere nor is Pixar and negative forum posts aren’t going to change that 😅
 
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Miss Rori

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I get why they still had to release the back-to-school and Christmas items this year, but selling an extremely expensive ($99.99) doll now? They weren't this generous to Treasure Planet or Strange World!

Now that it's almost been a year, it's wild how this movie has been "memory-holed", as the youth like to say these days. Nobody cosplays the characters at conventions, no one dressed up as them for Halloween, and so much of the online chatter regarding Moana 2 is about "finally, a Classic Disney Villain again!" when the whole intended point of Magnifico was to serve that purpose. I really wonder how many people know Wish exists at all!
 
Ghost93

Ghost93

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Miss Rori said:
I get why they still had to release the back-to-school and Christmas items this year, but selling an extremely expensive ($99.99) doll now? They weren't this generous to Treasure Planet or Strange World!

Now that it's almost been a year, it's wild how this movie has been "memory-holed", as the youth like to say these days. Nobody cosplays the characters at conventions, no one dressed up as them for Halloween, and so much of the online chatter regarding Moana 2 is about "finally, a Classic Disney Villain again!" when the whole intended point of Magnifico was to serve that purpose. I really wonder how many people know Wish exists at all!
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Wish is better than Moana 2 by a mile. I don't know if that's really a compliment to Wish or more of an indictment of Moana 2, but after leaving Moana 2 I started to think of Wish much more fondly.

I'll take "This Wish" (even with its nonsensical "throwing caution to every warning sign" line), "This is the Thanks I Get", "Knowing What I know Now" and "At All Costs" over any of the songs in Moana 2. Heck, I'd even take the animal song about how we are all stars over the Moana 2 music!
 
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TsWade2

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Ghost93 said:
Wish is better than Moana 2 by a mile. I don't know if that's really a compliment to Wish or more of an indictment of Moana 2, but after leaving Moana 2 I started to think of Wish much more fondly.

I'll take "This Wish" (even with its nonsensical "throwing caution to every warning sign" line), "This is the Thanks I Get", "Knowing What I know Now" and "At All Costs" over any of the songs in Moana 2. Heck, I'd even take the animal song about how we are all stars over the Moana 2 music!
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I‘m planning to see Moana 2 with a friend. I’m sorry you didn’t like Moana 2, but I’m glad that you’re respecting Wish more than you were last year. Thank you.
 
Ghost93

Ghost93

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TsWade2 said:
I‘m planning to see Moana 2 with a friend. I’m sorry you didn’t like Moana 2, but I’m glad that you’re respecting Wish more than you were last year. Thank you.
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I'm not sure what you are talking about, I gave Wish a pretty balanced review last year. Here is what I initially posted in November 2023 after I first saw the film:

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Anyway, I saw Wish this afternoon. I liked it, but I can also see why critics don't love it. It 's a very nice, pleasant film, but with the exception of its new animation style, it doesn't really do anything new. It's very much a throwback, and I suspect many critics had a "been there, done that" reaction to the movie. About a decade ago Frozen and Moana did a better job of containing what audiences loved about the Disney formula while also shaking up things to feel fresh. Wish didn't really have anything about it that makes it really stand out. It's a competently made, but standard and basic movie.

I think kids will love it. The ones in my audience seemed engaged and laughed a lot. It's watchable for parents but doesn't have that appeal to adults that more recent Disney and Pixar movies did.

The songs are good, but not up to par with the songs of Frozen, Moana, Encanto or any of the Disney Renaissance soundtracks. I'm happy to report that some of the lyrics I had previously criticized on this thread (such as "throw caution to every warning sign") made more sense within the context of the movie.

The best character was Chris Pine's King Magnifico, who had layers while still being a good, traditionally evil villain. I also found the dynamic Magnifico had with his wife compelling. I didn't care for Asha at first, but she grew on me as the movie went on. She started the film feeling like a Rapunzel/Anna knockoff but became more of a character in her own right as the film progressed. Asha's friends and the talking goat sidekick weren't that funny, but they didn't actively annoy me either. The star is adorable and is likely to become a fan-favorite character.

My thoughts on the new animation style are that the backgrounds are STUNNING while the character animation is hit or miss.

I'd give it a 7/10 overall. It was nice, but not really deserving of being the film that honors a 100-year legacy.
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Upon reflection I probably think Wish is more of a 6/10 film than a 7/10, but it's still not the disaster people act like it is.
 
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TsWade2

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Ghost93 said:
I'm not sure what you are talking about, I gave Wish a pretty balanced review last year. Here is what I initially posted in November 2023 after I first saw the film:



Upon reflection I probably think Wish is more of a 6/10 film than a 7/10, but it's still not the disaster people act like it is.
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Oh, I see. But thanks for not hating it.
 

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