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Wish (Walt Disney Animation - November 2023)
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Magenta Panther
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Wow, now it's 49%. 
LittleBuford
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Why are people continually checking the Tomatometer? What motivates someone to look in the hope that the score has dropped and then post about it?
Casper Gutman
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My main takeaway from all this is that Oliver and Company is massively underrated.
Farerb
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By the end of it, Home on the Range won't be the worst reviewed Disney musical.
LittleBuford
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I rewatched it a few years ago (I hadn't seen it since it first came out) and didn't much like it. Perhaps I need to give it another go.
Ghost93
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Other than "Why Should I Worry" — a great song, I don't really care for anything about Oliver and Company.
Heppenheimer
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So did I.
Oliver and Company did not improve with time. If anything, it looks even more like a latter day Bluth Studios direct-to-video release. Hard to believe that Disney had The Little Mermaid waiting in the wings at the same time.
LittleBuford
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In addition to the song, I really like the look of it.
My personal favourite from the pre-Little Mermaid '80s era is the film I grew up knowing as Basil the Great Mouse Detective. An underrated gem in my opinion!
WorldExplorer
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I love that one. I'm surprised seeing it placed next to stuff like Chicken Little and Home on the Range. The music alone should put it a few miles above those.
I would prefer it over Pocahontas, too, really.
(I also like Chicken Little, but realize it's not very good.)
Heppenheimer
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The only thing I don't like about that film is that it made me kind of sad that Disney only worked with Vincent Price and Henry Mancini very late in their careers. Price almost sounds like he's doing a hammed-up impression of himself and the results are absolutely glorious!
Figment1984
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I wouldn’t put too much weight on internet reviews for movies that came out pre-2000. Most critics aren’t revisiting 40+ year old movies to write a good review. They typically revisit it just to rate it with a “modern” perspective which I find silly. Yes, a movie that came out in the 1980s has very 80s culture. What did they expect?
brb1006
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No Disney Animation won't be done for. Disney Animation was in an even worse shape during the 70s and early 80s.
Ghost93
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Pinocchio, Fantasia, Alice in Wonderland, Sleeping Beauty, The Black Cauldron, The Rescuers Down Under, Fantasia 2000, The Emperor's New Groove, Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Home on the Range, Meet the Robinsons and Winnie the Pooh were all major flops or disappointments. Disney animation will survive Wish underperforming if that happens.
No it didn't. At least not compared to about 30 movies that performed better, including Bambi being re-released in theaters.
Luckily it had a release.
Tha Realest
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Honestly it’s likely a combination of “pointing at the scoreboard” and surprise at how poorly it’s being received. I for one was bullish on its financial and critical prospects, and am really surprised it’s being received like this from the critics.
If you had told me the critical consensus would be more favorably receptive to Trolls 3 than Wish, I wouldn’t have believed it.
Sir_Cliff
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It made more than the Bambi re-release; you're just looking at the 1988 grosses and it kept earning into 1989. My impression is that it was considered a box office success at the time, grossing about $15 million more than Great Mouse Detective. Coincidentally, it seems like the 35th anniversary of Oliver and Company's release was this past weekend!
Haven't watched it (or Great Mouse Detective) in years, so maybe should. I do remember seeing Great Mouse Detective in the cinema when I was about 5 or 6 years old, but not sure I've seen it since!