Thanks. Like I said, I'm trying to let it go since Wish is already settled in on Bluray/DVDs, digitals, and DisneyPlus.
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Wish (Walt Disney Animation - November 2023)
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Boston Lobster Feast. They have one on Internaitonal Drive as well as the Irlo Bronson location.
doctornick
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Is this the spoiler thread? Was trying to find discussion of the film since I finally got a chance to see it and… it was not good. I mean, it was okay but pretty much decidedly mediocre in all aspects (songs, characters, motivations, whatever the point was supposed to be). It’s better than Strange World or Lightyear, but I can’t say I’d ever watch this again.
Elemental being great helps me have some faith in Disney’s animation but this was a total miss.
Elemental being great helps me have some faith in Disney’s animation but this was a total miss.
Joel
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10% off is "a bit of a discount". This merchandise is finally selling because it's highly discounted. That's the point of a clearance, which is what this is.
Tha Realest
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When a retailer sells something at 75% off MSRP, they are basically begging for it to be taken out of their inventory.
By comparison, from what I've seen the merchandise for the Little Mermaid remake hasn't seen such fast or extreme discounting at a lot of places (and what is discounted is the stuff like costume props and such; the dolls are still full-priced). Disney's clearly moving on to prepping the shelves for the next toy-centric movie, but it would seem that film's merchandise sold well enough. What was Wish's excuse?
I agree. I believe Disney will include Asha and other characters from Wish from time to time occasionally, but I wouldn’t expect an attraction of it anyway. The movie may not be a masterpiece, but I don’t think it’s a bad movie IMO.
TP2000
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What's interesting is that from a marketplace perspective, Hunchback was actually profitable at the box office. Wish lost about $190 Million, in line with the huge losses from Strange World and, likely, Black Cauldron.
After the last few years of box office flops that lost hundreds of millions apiece, Disney would probably love a middling success like Hunchback which earned a small profit. This box office data is adjusted for inflation to 2024 dollars.
Ghost93
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The Hunchback of Notre Dame was the 5th highest-grossing film worldwide of 1996. I know it was seen as a disappointment following the massive successes of Aladdin and The Lion King (both of which were the highest grossing films worldwide in the years they came out) but I don't get this revisionism among the fandom that Hunchback is one of Disney's biggest flops. It made more worldwide than every Disney animated movie from the 70s and 80s (including The Little Mermaid), other Disney Renaissance movies like Hercules and Mulan, well regarded 2000s Disney movies like the Emperor's New Groove, Lilo and Stitch and The Princess and the Frog, and every Disney animated movie since the pandemic.
Animaniac93-98
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Is there a reason why The Black Cauldron and Meet the Robinsons were not referenced in the end credits?
Disappointed, but not surprised, they skipped most of the package features, but those two just feel like a random oversight.
Disappointed, but not surprised, they skipped most of the package features, but those two just feel like a random oversight.
Sir_Cliff
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Honestly, both Hunchback and Hercules seemed like big disappointments at the time but now look pretty successful when you adjust their box office totals for inflation. Hunchback did particularly well overseas, while Hercules seems to have benefitted more from the glow of 90s nostalgia.
Having watched Pocahontas, Hunchback, and Hercules since seeing Wish, I did think they were all on a different level in terms of storytelling. I know we've been back and forth on this thread about the need to suspend disbelief when watching other Disney films, but I really never felt watching any of those films that I didn't understand entirely what the main conflict was supposed to be or the motivations of the characters in the way I did with Wish. Like most, I found Wish more mediocre than terrible, but it did make me appreciate the skill that went into crafting those films a lot more.
I suspect those and The Rescuers films were left out because all of those are based on copyrighted books, and Disney couldn't work out the rights in time (as they did with the "Once Upon a Studio" short). A designer who worked on the end credits noted that the reason Yokai is the character representing Big Hero 6 is because he was unique to the movie so they automatically had the rights to use him, unlike Baymax or the film's other principals.
It calls to mind the complaint I've heard here and elsewhere that there were no actual stakes to the story. What does it matter if Sabino or others don't get their one wish when they live in a prosperous society where people live productive lives with loving families, and at worst sometimes feel vaguely unsatisfied, when they willingly gave up their one wish to enjoy a peaceful world that Magnifico worked so hard to provide with his magic? There isn't any real threat to the people until Asha acts out and - for no explained reason - is gifted some magical help, whereupon Magnifico gets paranoid and consults the Forbidden Book. And even then, what is Magnifico's ultimate plan besides "Be evil?" What was he going to do once everyone was under his heel?
MarvelCharacterNerd
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Finally got around to watching this since it was a rainy day and I had nothing better to do. 
Wasn't terrible. Wasn't great. Was okay. I'd watch it again, but I'd certainly be in no rush to do so. I am glad I wasn't spoilered on the ending although it was telegraphed hard enough.
It was a patchwork quilt of visual references and quotes of its betters and they might've done better box office simply packaging "The 100 Greatest Disney Moments" and releasing that theatrically as an "event" for the 100th rather than a mediocre pastiche of said films.
I basically liked it - though by the fourth or fifth callback to other films I started to cringe. But Asha was an Anna/Moana/Mirabel mashup down to her tone and mannerisms and Magnifico was Hans 2.0 down to his outfit.
Having said that, I do hope we get Magnifico at Oogie Boogie Bash this year - he'd be super fun to interact with. Also, possibly the best villain hair ever.
Wasn't terrible. Wasn't great. Was okay. I'd watch it again, but I'd certainly be in no rush to do so. I am glad I wasn't spoilered on the ending although it was telegraphed hard enough.
It was a patchwork quilt of visual references and quotes of its betters and they might've done better box office simply packaging "The 100 Greatest Disney Moments" and releasing that theatrically as an "event" for the 100th rather than a mediocre pastiche of said films.
I basically liked it - though by the fourth or fifth callback to other films I started to cringe. But Asha was an Anna/Moana/Mirabel mashup down to her tone and mannerisms and Magnifico was Hans 2.0 down to his outfit.
Having said that, I do hope we get Magnifico at Oogie Boogie Bash this year - he'd be super fun to interact with. Also, possibly the best villain hair ever.
Don't think it's totally off the table since he's by far the most popular character with the fans the film has, and even a lot of detractors think he was cool. On both sides of that aisle a lot of them weren't happy about his fate (i.e. he should have been redeemed/forgiven, especially taking his sad backstory into account).Having said that, I do hope we get Magnifico at Oogie Boogie Bash this year - he'd be super fun to interact with. Also, possibly the best villain hair ever.
Sir_Cliff
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Yes, it's hard also not to think that, whatever most of us do, we're not going to ultimately be able to fulfil our ultimate wish as the world just can't be made up of singer songwriters, aviators, and fairy godmothers. Honestly, the deal they had in Rosas is better than the one most of us get in that they had the option to allow a higher authority to judge whether their wish was ultimately viable but, either way, would enjoy a life of relative peace, prosperity, and harmony among all peoples. It's difficult living in this world to look at that one and feel a huge sense of injustice, at least it was for me!
Thinking about Pocahontas, Hunchback, and Hercules, the main struggle centred on personal character and integrity. Basically, characters having to make difficult decisions and often being selfless in the interest of the good of others. Wish was kind of the opposite: why can't I have it all?
Animaniac93-98
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It's also surprising that after all these years (decades? How old is Rosas and its King?) Asha is the very first to question the whole wish granting thing, despite numerous apprentices before her.