Casper Gutman
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No. Pixar always had a profoundly collaborative creative process, and it’s the team that matters. Pixar has continued to produce high quality films with one notable exception, Lightyear.
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Wish (Walt Disney Animation - November 2023)
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mickEblu
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Ok. I’ll let him know.
Disstevefan1
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None of the movies were "walk out of the theater bad", some were OK, some were really good, all just cost more to make and market than the brought in.
Wish isn't even a Pixar movie, and yet the Lasseter incident is being relitigated. Did y'all not see the warning of going off topic?
Um………bye!
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Yes, but he did run all of Disney Animation for a bit....
First, once again, I apologize for being a drama king. I guess I’ve been doom scrolling on Twitter/X. Second, I’ve found a slash film article that gave me hope for Wish: https://www.slashfilm.com/1455842/disneys-wish-box-office-disappointment-dont-count-it-out-yet/ I guess despite of a bad start of the box office, maybe there’s hope for Wish to do well at the box office after all. Maybe not a Frozen success, but maybe between a Tangled and Moana success. We’ll see. In the meantime, I’m planning to see it with my best friend this Saturday. Just need to find out the times tomorrow.
WorldExplorer
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I don't know what their next movie is (and I probably won't see it), but I'm curious how they're going to handle villains now that their "return to form" seems to have fallen flat on its face (and amassed a group of people who're appalled at Disney's lack of concern for him falling flat on his face).
Try again?
More badly written twists?
Actually try to write a character that's consistently an antagonist with personality and presence but not in the pure evil style of old villains?
Give up and try to avoid them altogether?
Try again?
More badly written twists?
Actually try to write a character that's consistently an antagonist with personality and presence but not in the pure evil style of old villains?
Give up and try to avoid them altogether?
Figments Friend
Well-Known Member
Agreed!
mickEblu
Well-Known Member
Any inside info ?
Farerb
Well-Known Member
You didn't even go to see Wish in its opening weekend? Do you realize that you contributed to its low opening numbers?
I have not seen the film, but having looked at the lyrics of the final song and some of the tie-in books...In the climax, the song works because as Asha remembers from "I'm a Star", she and every other citizen of Rosas is a star. By singing together of their desire for more than Magnifico's reign of terror, thus tapping into their own inherent magical ability, they are able to overpower the dark magic and free Star.
FettFan
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For comparison, $100M was the budget for both Across the Spider-Verse (Sony) and Super Mario Bros. Movie (Illumination).
Disney tends to go higher, with Frozen, Frozen 2, Moana, Zootopia, and Encanto all around $150M.
Strange World reportedly got $180M
FettFan
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I think the biggest problem with Luck is the fact that it was (and remains) exclusive to Apple TV+.
MrPromey
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Which would suggest that this amazing dark magic he basically threw his soul away to possess wasn’t even really that powerful to begin with, relatively speaking.
Yours is probably the closest to the right answer and it’s funny that nobody who has actually seen the movie on here responded with that (but now that you’ve put it out there, we’ll get people agreeing)
And unfortunately, that’s only one of the things they don’t really flesh out either well or at all during this film’s running time. :/
MrPromey
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To be fair, the artists for Spider have said that as an industry, the conditions they produced that movie under are not sustainable.
The right answer for feature length animation is probably somewhere closer to the middle between the two.
Casper Gutman
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Which is one of the major reasons that the third Spider-Verse film is indefinitely delayed.
And Illumination is the "cheap and basic" animation studio. Their animation is, intentionally, nowhere near the level of Disney, Pixar, and Dreamworks. They're the Hanna-Barbera of CGI. It has its place, but its place shouldn't be at Disney.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I have a feeling that Illumination and Sony Animation are going to start seeing their budgets rise fairly quickly too, especially after the Disney animators unionize with IATSE.