MrPromey
Well-Known Member
He didn't know it was the star but he freaked the eff out the moment that happened and as soon as he understood what it was, he jumped straight to the forbidden zone without passing go.
I'm guessing it wasn't just him that got rewrites and massive changes but large chunks of the movie to make sure whatever Ts they had to cross and Is they had to dot got their moments. That's the only reason I can think of to have ended up with what we got.
My point wasn't why bother rescuing the wishes. It was why bother making everyone jump through hoops to do it when the star was clearly powerful enough to have done it from the start, alone without bothering to address why it couldn't or wouldn't.
It could have released all their wishes so they could find their own way to make them happen.
It did after all, seem to grant wishes at its own choosing along with doing magic nobody asked for when they (Disney) needed it for humor.
I don't think she asked for a magic wand but it had no problem offering one up to her to go off and be useless with it .
I mean, they almost failed because they couldn't get the roof to open for pete's sake!
I can understand as a construct "this is what we want to happen" and "we don't want to make this about people getting things handed to them" and if we want to talk about morals or the message Disney wanted to send that's a whole other discussion. I just saw no attempt at an in-world explanation for why that didn't happen at any point if all it took was opening a roof that for whatever nonsensical reason, was already designed to open.
Surely magically pulling a rope is less magical than granting a three week old goat the ability to speak English with the fleshed out fully developed thoughts of at least a teen human, no?
I don't go into a movie thinking "the film makers didn't want to make it too easy on them". I want a story written smartly enough that I don't have to think about what the filmmakers wanted in the moment of watching the movie. I'm of the opinion, the movie and story should be enough to do that.
As the creators of the story, this world and everything in it, they were free to write the rules however they wanted but it's like they just didn't even bother.
It's like, imagine if Lord of the Rings had been written without ever addressing there was only one way to destroy the ring. Without anyone mentioning trying any other method or anyone even saying the only way was to go on a long dangerous journey to drop it some place to destroy it, they just decide "hey, lets do it this hard way" and maybe they have a good reason for it or maybe they don't but you the reader have no way of knowing because Tolkien didn't bother to come up with that important plot detail.
... It's just like they didn't explain how a song turned everything around.
It just did and I guess we're supposed to be so impressed by the song we don't question how it fixed everything.
I mean, to compare it to a better Disney movie, think about how they resolved things in the fist Aladdin when faced with a similarly overpowered villain who had at that point clearly won with seemingly no way of stopping him.
They actually managed to write a story reason for how the good guys won, there.
They didn't even seem to bother to try, here.
I'm guessing it wasn't just him that got rewrites and massive changes but large chunks of the movie to make sure whatever Ts they had to cross and Is they had to dot got their moments. That's the only reason I can think of to have ended up with what we got.
My point wasn't why bother rescuing the wishes. It was why bother making everyone jump through hoops to do it when the star was clearly powerful enough to have done it from the start, alone without bothering to address why it couldn't or wouldn't.
It could have released all their wishes so they could find their own way to make them happen.
It did after all, seem to grant wishes at its own choosing along with doing magic nobody asked for when they (Disney) needed it for humor.
I don't think she asked for a magic wand but it had no problem offering one up to her to go off and be useless with it .
I mean, they almost failed because they couldn't get the roof to open for pete's sake!
I can understand as a construct "this is what we want to happen" and "we don't want to make this about people getting things handed to them" and if we want to talk about morals or the message Disney wanted to send that's a whole other discussion. I just saw no attempt at an in-world explanation for why that didn't happen at any point if all it took was opening a roof that for whatever nonsensical reason, was already designed to open.
Surely magically pulling a rope is less magical than granting a three week old goat the ability to speak English with the fleshed out fully developed thoughts of at least a teen human, no?
I don't go into a movie thinking "the film makers didn't want to make it too easy on them". I want a story written smartly enough that I don't have to think about what the filmmakers wanted in the moment of watching the movie. I'm of the opinion, the movie and story should be enough to do that.
As the creators of the story, this world and everything in it, they were free to write the rules however they wanted but it's like they just didn't even bother.
It's like, imagine if Lord of the Rings had been written without ever addressing there was only one way to destroy the ring. Without anyone mentioning trying any other method or anyone even saying the only way was to go on a long dangerous journey to drop it some place to destroy it, they just decide "hey, lets do it this hard way" and maybe they have a good reason for it or maybe they don't but you the reader have no way of knowing because Tolkien didn't bother to come up with that important plot detail.
... It's just like they didn't explain how a song turned everything around.
It just did and I guess we're supposed to be so impressed by the song we don't question how it fixed everything.
I mean, to compare it to a better Disney movie, think about how they resolved things in the fist Aladdin when faced with a similarly overpowered villain who had at that point clearly won with seemingly no way of stopping him.
They actually managed to write a story reason for how the good guys won, there.
They didn't even seem to bother to try, here.
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