Will DCA be a Complete, Well Rounded and Full Day Park after the New Rides Open?

Will DCA be a Complete, Well Rounded and Full Day Park after the New Rides Open?

  • Yes

  • No, it will still need another major family attraction/ dark ride or two

  • No, it still needs at least another coaster

  • No, it needs a couple more attractions with heart like the stuff over in Fantasyland

  • No, it needs 1-2 more quality well themed lands on the Simba Lot

  • No, it needs a Transpo ride like the Train, Twain or Main Street Vehicles (RIP Red Car Trolley)

  • Two or more of the above (please explain)

  • Nothing they feasibly do can make it a full day park in my eyes

  • It already is a Complete, Well Rounded and Full Day park

  • Other (please explain)


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AxolotlTales

Well-Known Member
Where’s DCA’s 25th Anniversary Celebration?

The 70th alone seemed like an afterthought. They'll probably put out a pin and call it a day. Maybe if they're feeling good they'll reskin the old soundsational float again and have a cavalcade for the week.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
The 70th alone seemed like an afterthought. They'll probably put out a pin and call it a day. Maybe if they're feeling good they'll reskin the old soundsational float again and have a cavalcade for the week.

Here’s a few things they could do:

Soarin Over California all year and Soarin
Around the World for Food n Wine instead

Muppets make a return

Give TSMM a real update

New show in the Hyperion

Then of course the usual food, merch, bunting etc
 

PiratesMansion

Well-Known Member
RE: second gates and anniversaries, TDS gets full blown anniversary celebrations, and sometimes Epcot get anniversary acknowledgements; I don't really know if any of the other second gates have ever gotten much of anything in terms of anniversary milestones, but it makes sense to me that the two most successful second gates have had some anniversary love but the more polarizing other second gates have been overlooked.

As for why they won't celebrate DCA's 25th, I feel like their excuse would be that it's still the 70th and they don't want to "distract" from that by doing a DCA anniversary celebration of any heft. I'm not opposed to an anniversary celebration, I just don't anticipate that they'll do much of anything.
 

AdventureHasAName

Well-Known Member
That is all well and good to talk about, but reality is different. The FL Dark Rides get a pass by most modern audiences due to legacy and nostalgia. But in general I bet that a majority of modern audience would pass up and ignore a modern bus bar dark ride as being too simple and not up to modern standards for a "new" attraction.
... not a majority of the modern audience with young children.


Is it? Because they had a land just for this that they got rid of in favor of a land focused on action and an older audience. So its clear Disney's focus for DCA was different than the young children crowd, they left DL for that.
Bugs Life Land was themed to an IP nobody cares about (something that was obvious on the day it was built, btw). Replace that with dark rides for The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Mulan and Aladdin and it would currently be the most popular land in the park.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
... not a majority of the modern audience with young children.
Doubt that...

If Disney thought that was a problem they'd be building more modern bus bar attractions in all their Parks. And since they are cheap you'd know Disney would build those over any other attraction if they thought it was worth it. So since they haven't built one in a long time clearly they don't think modern audiences will be receptive to them.

Bugs Life Land was themed to an IP nobody cares about (something that was obvious on the day it was built, btw). Replace that with dark rides for The Lion King, Beauty and the Beast, Mulan and Aladdin and it would currently be the most popular land in the park.
You still miss the point, DCA already has had these type of attractions and are moving away from them. The actual bus bar attraction you are looking for is getting torn down in the spring. They are clearly trying to differentiate DCA from DL even more. Which is why you don't find a 1-for-1 attraction type and land type in DCA compared to DL. DL will have the FL Dark Rides and other classic attractions, while DCA will have the more modern attractions based on more modern ride systems.
 

AdventureHasAName

Well-Known Member
Doubt that...

If Disney thought that was a problem they'd be building more modern bus bar attractions in all their Parks. And since they are cheap you'd know Disney would build those over any other attraction if they thought it was worth it. So since they haven't built one in a long time clearly they don't think modern audiences will be receptive to them.


You still miss the point, DCA already has had these type of attractions and are moving away from them. The actual bus bar attraction you are looking for is getting torn down in the spring. They are clearly trying to differentiate DCA from DL even more. Which is why you don't find a 1-for-1 attraction type and land type in DCA compared to DL. DL will have the FL Dark Rides and other classic attractions, while DCA will have the more modern attractions based on more modern ride systems.
Yes, but you have to remember ... I think Disney's management are all morons (and have been for three decades). Even the ones in WDI.
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
I feel like their excuse would be that it's still the 70th and they don't want to "distract" from that by doing a DCA anniversary celebration of any heft. I'm not opposed to an anniversary celebration

I see your point but by the time we get to February of next year we'll be in the Dog Days of the 70th anniversary. If anything, a DCA 25th celebration can give the entire a resort a little shot in the arm.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Yes, but you have to remember ... I think Disney's management are all morons (and have been for three decades). Even the ones in WDI.
Yeah but you do agree they are still “cheap” right? So then you have to think they would build a cheap bus bar attraction over any other of the current projects slated for DCA if it was actually in their interest. So clearly they aren’t seeing it as the “cheap” way to add to DCA.
 

AdventureHasAName

Well-Known Member
Yeah but you do agree they are still “cheap” right? So then you have to think they would build a cheap bus bar attraction over any other of the current projects slated for DCA if it was actually in their interest. So clearly they aren’t seeing it as the “cheap” way to add to DCA.
Yes, I agree they are inexpensive and I agree that Disney management doesn't recognize their utility.
 

MarvelCharacterNerd

Well-Known Member
Follow up questions: Have you experienced Spider-Man at Islands of Adventure?
Really wish I could for the IP but don't like thrill rides in general even if the motion sickness didn't hit me. I'm a dark ride fan at heart. If I ever get to Uni Orlando, my top priority would be to ride the train to Hogwarts. lol

Have you tried dramamine to combat the motion sickness other rides bring you?
Dramamine and Bonine have never helped. It's an inner ear imbalance and I can't deal with anything that spins, drops, swoops, turns suddenly, etc. Soarin' and Philharmagic would make me dizzy if I didn't know to close my eyes at certain parts, but since I know how to deal with those, I can still enjoy both and I do. The reason I can do Web Slingers is because the motion parts are in front of practical sets, then you settle in front of the screen parts before it opens. Still a little spinny for me at first, but I know it and can settle soon enough into the non-spinny part afterward.

Of course, each person's system is different, but I wager if my cousin could successfully conquer the coasters of Cedar Point with dramamine, you could probably take on the other attractions of DCA that would normally prove problematic with it as well-assuming, of course, that you enjoyed said attractions in the first place and would opt to ride them if not for the motion sickness, which may or may not be the case.
Yeah, even if they didn't make me sick, I wouldn't enjoy coasters or drop rides.

I suppose you are the pretty much exactly the target audience for the ride.
:) And I'm cool with that. I see a lot of families coming off the attraction excited and happy - and with sore arms. lol Not everything has to be a thrill ride E-ticket and Disney seems to have forgotten how to make an E-Ticket strictly from quality of theming like Haunted Mansion or Pirates without a major thrill component. I'm genuinely sad I can't go on RotR but I can't because of the drop at the end.
Perhaps I am the only person for whom the nighttime pier does absolutely nothing for.

Maybe because I have become acquainted with actual historic amusement park piers at night, which truly deliver overwhelming, organic atmosphere that Disney's fake version can never hope to match. Disney's version is just enough removed from the real thing (not helped by hotels and the convention center easily visible in the background) to feel completely artificial and lifeless to me.
Fair enough. The daytime pier does nothing for me as there's not a single ride for me there besides Little Mermaid which even for me is rather a bore. Thrill rides are for you and DCA lit up at night is for me. :) But I'd also be totally fine with losing the pier entirely, bulldozing the area and making better attractions to fill the space. Heck, if they plopped down Avatar in there, I'd've been fine with that, too, as I know it's additive for the park, if not for me, then for others. But for now, I see lights and it makes a pleasant walk at night.
 

Mortimer Mouse

New Member
That is all well and good to talk about, but reality is different. The FL Dark Rides get a pass by most modern audiences due to legacy and nostalgia. But in general I bet that a majority of modern audience would pass up and ignore a modern bus bar dark ride as being too simple and not up to modern standards for a "new" attraction.
I have to disagree, as little kids don't have such standards or expectations. My friend just took her 3 year old, and Mr. Toad was her favorite ride! Kids see value in rides like that.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I have to disagree, as little kids don't have such standards or expectations. My friend just took her 3 year old, and Mr. Toad was her favorite ride! Kids see value in rides like that.
Its the parents that set the "standards" and "value" for the kids in this context, and if the parents don't see the value they won't even take their kids on it to experience it.

As mentioned DCA has had one of these bus bar attractions since opening, and Disney is getting rid of it. And they haven't built any new ones in over a decade in any Park. If Disney really saw this as a "quick cheap" attraction to add value to the Park don't you think they would go that way instead of spending probably over $1B on 4 new attractions and a whole new land? Whether "we" think that type of attraction has value or not is irrelevant, this isn't what Disney is wanting to accomplish with DCA at this point.

Maybe they'll add a new bus bar dark ride in the future expansion area going into the Simba lot, who knows. Until then this is what DCA is getting.
 

Gusey

Well-Known Member
Honestly thinking about it now, isn't the 70th more of a 70th/25th combined Resort celebration anyways?

Also do any of the secondary parks get much of a celebration these days, or only the primary Castle Park and/or Resort?
Im just thinking back to Animal Kingdom's 25th in 2023, when all they did was a special opening that day and the special cupcakes/food. Think something similar for DCA unfortunately
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Im just thinking back to Animal Kingdom's 25th in 2023, when all they did was a special opening that day and the special cupcakes/food. Think something similar for DCA unfortunately
Agreed, don't think the secondary Parks get much of a huge celebration anymore beyond just some basic bunting and food, other than if OLC does it themselves for TDS.

I think Disney is more about celebrating the Resorts/Castle Parks these days, rather than each individual Park.
 

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